Request for Utsusemi

[Xoo]

Yet again, AGAIN, is Bard getting Flash??!!

[Wolfie]

And we all know that Ninja's lost very precious enmity with each shadow taken. Can we recall mobs that had multi-hit Weaponskills? Triple-bats? Colibri? Can't think of any others right now.

It was negligible. The enmity lost by a NIN on a multi-hit mob WS was infinitely better than the HP lost by a PLD tank on the same mob WS.

SE tried to balance Utsusemi several times and failed each time. it had some minor faults, but it was still by far and large the best defensive skill in the game.

[Antanias]

I'm not trolling. I'm stupid. But apparently I speak for the majority, so the majority rules!

Please speak for yourself, no one person is the voice of everyone

[Chardrizard]

And we all know that Ninjas lost very precious enmity with each shadow taken. Can we recall mobs that had multi-hit Weaponskills? Triple-bats? Colibri? Can't think of any others right now.

Someone needs enmity lesson, you lose alot more enmity in FFXI when u took damage than losing shadow. You can factor multi-hit WS of course, but that is where healers are gonna cover you until your recast is up.

[Xoo]

It was negligible. The enmity lost by a NIN on a multi-hit mob WS was infinitely better than the HP lost by a PLD tank on the same mob WS.

SE tried to balance Utsusemi several times and failed each time. it had some minor faults, but it was still by far and large the best defensive skill in the game.

Either way, I think we can agree that Paladin had its time to shine as well as Ninja. Utsusemi didn't bury Paladin, so stop talking as if it did.

[Wolfie]

Someone needs enmity lesson, you lose alot more enmity in FFXI when u took damage than losing shadow. You can factor multi-hit WS of course, but that is where healers are gonna cover you until your recast is up.

I didn't even consider this; forgot that damage taken reduced enmity.

Is there anything NIN did that wasn't totally better than PLD?

[Wolfie]

Either way, I think we can agree that Paladin had its time to shine as well as Ninja. Utsusemi didn't bury Paladin, so stop talking as if it did.

I will keep talking as if it did, because it did. PLD was a second rate tank for everything except the dozen HNMs where it eeked out a victory over NIN. You haven't yet showed me any proof that PLD was on equal footing with NIN, and i have hard numbers that showed that NIN was faring better than PLD.

[Xoo]

Someone needs enmity lesson, you lose alot more enmity in FFXI when u took damage than losing shadow. You can factor multi-hit WS of course, but that is where healers are gonna cover you until your recast is up.

And as a Ninja, when your shadows drop and the mob suddenly takes everything you loved as a child?

[Firon]

I will keep talking as if it did, because it did. PLD was a second rate tank for everything except the dozen HNMs where it eeked out a victory over NIN. You haven't yet showed me any proof that PLD was on equal footing with NIN, and i have hard numbers that showed that NIN was faring better than PLD.

lol no you did not, like i said PLD/NIN took less dmg than nin no matter what you say and did more dmg. Ill say it again Atonement was better than Blade: Jin vs every high lvl mob in the game.

[Wolfie]

And as a Ninja, when your shadows drop and the mob suddenly takes everything you loved as a child?

k ur dumb, i'm so ashamed it took me 8 pages in this topic and 4 pages in another to figure it out.