Request for Utsusemi

[Wolfie]

Did we factor in mob attack speed/accuracy/spells/abilities as well? How is 100 shadows relevant when the mob can take 99
of them in a split second?

Average mob attack speed in FFXI was 2 seconds. Miss and evades also take precedence over hits. 7 images/37 seconds, or 1 image/5.3 seconds was way more than enough to take less overall damage than a PLD tank.

[Chardrizard]

Average mob attack speed in FFXI was 2 seconds. Miss and evades also take precedence over hits. 7 images/37 seconds, or 1 image/5.3 seconds was way more than enough to take less overall damage than a PLD tank.

That number is also without factoring haste 25% gear, lulz.

[Wolfie]

That number is also without factoring haste 25% gear, lulz.

Yeah.

Hence why a skilled, well geared NIN tank would mop the floor with a PLD tank for everything except like 8 NMs.

[Xoo]

Yet again, AGAIN, is Bard getting Flash??!!

[Xoo]

Average mob attack speed in FFXI was 2 seconds. Miss and evades also take precedence over hits. 7 images/37 seconds, or 1 image/5.3 seconds was way more than enough to take less overall damage than a PLD tank.

And we all know that Ninjas lost very precious enmity with each shadow taken. Can we recall mobs that had multi-hit Weaponskills? Triple-bats? Colibri? Can't think of any others right now.

[Wolfie]

And we all know that Ninja's lost very precious enmity with each shadow taken. Can we recall mobs that had multi-hit Weaponskills? Triple-bats? Colibri? Can't think of any others right now.

It was negligible. The enmity lost by a NIN on a multi-hit mob WS was infinitely better than the HP lost by a PLD tank on the same mob WS.

SE tried to balance Utsusemi several times and failed each time. it had some minor faults, but it was still by far and large the best defensive skill in the game.

[Xoo]

It was negligible. The enmity lost by a NIN on a multi-hit mob WS was infinitely better than the HP lost by a PLD tank on the same mob WS.

SE tried to balance Utsusemi several times and failed each time. it had some minor faults, but it was still by far and large the best defensive skill in the game.

Either way, I think we can agree that Paladin had its time to shine as well as Ninja. Utsusemi didn't bury Paladin, so stop talking as if it did.

[Wolfie]

Either way, I think we can agree that Paladin had its time to shine as well as Ninja. Utsusemi didn't bury Paladin, so stop talking as if it did.

I will keep talking as if it did, because it did. PLD was a second rate tank for everything except the dozen HNMs where it eeked out a victory over NIN. You haven't yet showed me any proof that PLD was on equal footing with NIN, and i have hard numbers that showed that NIN was faring better than PLD.

[Firon]

I will keep talking as if it did, because it did. PLD was a second rate tank for everything except the dozen HNMs where it eeked out a victory over NIN. You haven't yet showed me any proof that PLD was on equal footing with NIN, and i have hard numbers that showed that NIN was faring better than PLD.

lol no you did not, like i said PLD/NIN took less dmg than nin no matter what you say and did more dmg. Ill say it again Atonement was better than Blade: Jin vs every high lvl mob in the game.

[Wolfie]

lol no you don't like i said PLD/NIN took less dmg than nin no matter what you say and did more dmg.

You don't judge a tank on a single criteria in a single scenario. Please tell me you're not serious with this reply.