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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Wolfie, yanno, maybe I'd be a bit more serious and even bothered if your head blows off your neck or you kick a few kittens if you would simply address the OP and not FFXI. Deal?
    I addressed the OP. Utsusemi is ridiculous and should not be implemented in this game. The discussion then went on a tangent to NIN vs PLD tanks in FFXI.
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    Relative to Sentinel, I think they should make Second Wind either PGL exclusive or a Lv40 skill. Same with Raise and any other really useful ability in the game. We can't have indespensable abilities in the game! It will unbalance the cosmos!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Relative to Sentinel, I think they should make Second Wind either PGL exclusive or a Lv40 skill. Same with Raise and any other really useful ability in the game. We can't have indespensable abilities in the game! It will unbalance the cosmos!!
    Do you even know what Utsusemi is?

    It's basically a decoy with 5sec recast, if you can't see this being broken then lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Dude, what part of "PLD was the better tank for HNMs" do you not get? Have I not said that like 10 f**king times already? PLD/WAR and PLD/NIN were the go-to tanks for the hardest hitting NMs because the tank needed high HP and defense.

    The rest of end-game, which included Dynamis, Limbus, Salvage, lesser HNMs, KSNM, Sky, some tier1 and tier2 Sea NMs, and practically everything else was better with a NIN tank. Can you get this through your head?
    I'll just agree your ls played the game different and everyone else did it the pld way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    I addressed the OP. Utsusemi is ridiculous and should not be implemented in this game. The discussion then went on a tangent to NIN vs PLD tanks in FFXI.
    Ridiculous in its implementation regarding FFXI. This is XIV. Let's all sing along now:

    Let's give it to Bard!
    Let's give it to Bard!
    WHAT DID YOU SAY?!
    I SAID
    Let's give it to Bard!
    I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
    Let's give it to Bard!
    LET'S GIVE IT TO BARD!


    /picks his nose and flicks it at Wolfie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    Relative to Sentinel, I think they should make Second Wind either PGL exclusive or a Lv40 skill. Same with Raise and any other really useful ability in the game. We can't have indespensable abilities in the game! It will unbalance the cosmos!!
    They should either:

    1. Be redundant as abilities on other classes
    2. Be retuned to not be required for practically everything

    The reason a problem exists with ______ ability on _______ class or job is because it becomes a staple for most activities in the game. Once it does that, leveling that class for that ability becomes a de facto requirement for playing the game, because the community as a whole imposes that requirement.

    Balancing is an ongoing process that always has to be monitored to make sure that no single ability or class vastly outranks everything else in usefulness, and if it does, it does not stay at the top for long. It's better for the health of the game as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Do you even know what Utsusemi is?

    It's basically a decoy with 5sec recast, if you can't see this being broken then lol.
    Uhh, do you know what Utsusemi was? Ichi was a spell granting 3 shadows which negated single-target attacks every 30 seconds, along with its 2nd tier, Utsusemi Ni, which was a spell granting 4 shadows which negated single-target attacks every 45 seconds.

    Did I miss something, or is Bard getting Flash? O.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    They should either:

    1. Be redundant as abilities on other classes
    2. Be retuned to not be required for practically everything

    The reason a problem exists with ______ ability on _______ class or job is because it becomes a staple for most activities in the game. Once it does that, leveling that class for that ability becomes a de facto requirement for playing the game, because the community as a whole imposes that requirement.

    Balancing is an ongoing process that always has to be monitored to make sure that no single ability or class vastly outranks everything else in usefulness, and if it does, it does not stay at the top for long. It's better for the health of the game as a whole.
    Cross classing skills is easy to fix they could make sent only 10% dmg reduction for non Gla/PLD classes/jobs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Weren't you saying how you want quality in what SE does? Did you take the proper time to think about what Utsusemi did to FFXI and what it would do to FFXIV?
    All it would do to FFXIV is make an easy game even easier :\
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    Guys, the OP is trollin'

    Y'all stupid?
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