Request for Utsusemi

[Chardrizard]

Relative to Sentinel, I think they should make Second Wind either PGL exclusive or a Lv40 skill. Same with Raise and any other really useful ability in the game. We can't have indespensable abilities in the game! It will unbalance the cosmos!!

Do you even know what Utsusemi is?

It's basically a decoy with 5sec recast, if you can't see this being broken then lol.

[Xoo]

Do you even know what Utsusemi is?

It's basically a decoy with 5sec recast, if you can't see this being broken then lol.

Uhh, do you know what Utsusemi was? Ichi was a spell granting 3 shadows which negated single-target attacks every 30 seconds, along with its 2nd tier, Utsusemi Ni, which was a spell granting 4 shadows which negated single-target attacks every 45 seconds.

Did I miss something, or is Bard getting Flash? O.O

[Chardrizard]

Uhh, do you know what Utsusemi was? Ichi was a spell granting 3 shadows which negated single-target attacks every 30 seconds, along with its 2nd tier, Utsusemi Ni, which was a spell granting 4 shadows which negated single-target attacks every 45 seconds.

Did I miss something, or is Bard getting Flash? O.O

so you have 7 shadows in approximates every 37second [(30sec+45sec)/2] because they don't share recast timer. That is 1 shadow per 5,28seconds. My point still stands.

This doesn't have anything to do with tanking abilities, Utsusemi was broken on any job. It boosts anyone's survival ability by huge margin. It was used in every hard solo attempt, not only in tanking.

[Xoo]

so you have 7 shadows in approximates every 37second [(30sec+45sec)/2] because they don't share recast timer. That is 1 shadow per 5,28seconds. My point still stands.

This doesn't have anything to do with tanking abilities, Utsusemi was broken on any job. It boosts anyone's survival ability by huge margin. It was used in every hard solo attempt, not only in tanking.

Did we factor in mob attack speed/accuracy/spells/abilities as well? How is 100 shadows relevant when the mob can take 99 of them in a split second, and repeatedly?

[Wolfie]

Did we factor in mob attack speed/accuracy/spells/abilities as well? How is 100 shadows relevant when the mob can take 99
of them in a split second?

Average mob attack speed in FFXI was 2 seconds. Miss and evades also take precedence over hits. 7 images/37 seconds, or 1 image/5.3 seconds was way more than enough to take less overall damage than a PLD tank.

[Chardrizard]

Average mob attack speed in FFXI was 2 seconds. Miss and evades also take precedence over hits. 7 images/37 seconds, or 1 image/5.3 seconds was way more than enough to take less overall damage than a PLD tank.

That number is also without factoring haste 25% gear, lulz.

[Wolfie]

That number is also without factoring haste 25% gear, lulz.

Yeah.

Hence why a skilled, well geared NIN tank would mop the floor with a PLD tank for everything except like 8 NMs.

[Xoo]

Yet again, AGAIN, is Bard getting Flash??!!

[Xoo]

Average mob attack speed in FFXI was 2 seconds. Miss and evades also take precedence over hits. 7 images/37 seconds, or 1 image/5.3 seconds was way more than enough to take less overall damage than a PLD tank.

And we all know that Ninjas lost very precious enmity with each shadow taken. Can we recall mobs that had multi-hit Weaponskills? Triple-bats? Colibri? Can't think of any others right now.

[Wolfie]

And we all know that Ninja's lost very precious enmity with each shadow taken. Can we recall mobs that had multi-hit Weaponskills? Triple-bats? Colibri? Can't think of any others right now.

It was negligible. The enmity lost by a NIN on a multi-hit mob WS was infinitely better than the HP lost by a PLD tank on the same mob WS.

SE tried to balance Utsusemi several times and failed each time. it had some minor faults, but it was still by far and large the best defensive skill in the game.