Request for Utsusemi

[Wolfie]

No lol PLD was the go to tank for all end game nin had to little hp and pld could cast ustu better than nin cause its passive trait which is when you block you cant get spell interrupt.. I played main tank for 6 years endgame and only seen nin tanks around early 2005 XI after that it was all pld/nin.

Somehow I seriously doubt this, because for everything except Cerberus/Tiamat/Vrtra/PW/[insert 5 hour long HNM here], people grabbed NINs to tank.

[Chardrizard]

Somehow I seriously doubt this, because for everything except Cerberus/Tiamat/Vrtra/PW/[insert 5 hour long HNM here], people grabbed NINs to tank.

Eh i think it came down to your LS preferences, some LS have better NINs some have better PLDs, my LS usually does things with PLD/NIN because we only have 1-2 reliable tank NINs at disposal due to our LS size.

[Wolfie]

Eh i think it came down to your LS preferences, some LS have better NINs some have better PLDs, my LS usually does things with PLD/NIN because we only have 1-2 reliable tank NINs at disposal due to our LS size.

I agree with this to a point. PLD was generally easier to work with if you didn't have a geared NIN tank. The LSes that were on my server, however, all had geared NIN tanks (luckily or unluckily, whatever you think), and PLDs were not used on the server at all except for the hardest HNMs and in smaller LSes that were trying to catch up.

The reason is because a skilled or well geared NIN tank was better than PLD in practically every situation except the hard NMs, mostly thanks to Utsusemi. Less damage taken, more damage dealt, and the enmity generated was enough to keep monsters off the DDs. And they doubled as DPS in the rare case where more tanks showed up for content than needed.

[Firon]

I agree with this to a point. PLD was generally easier to work with if you didn't have a geared NIN tank. The LSes that were on my server, however, all had geared NIN tanks (luckily or unluckily, whatever you think), and PLDs were not used on the server at all except for the hardest HNMs and in smaller LSes that were trying to catch up.

The reason is because a skilled or well geared NIN tank was better than PLD in practically every situation except the hard NMs, mostly thanks to Utsusemi. Less damage taken, more damage dealt, and the enmity generated was enough to keep monsters off the DDs. And they doubled as DPS in the rare case where more tanks showed up for content than needed.

Last time i'm gonna respond to this but PLD/NIN beat nin in every way lol Atonement > every nin ws vs hnm's for dmg. Pld had an easier time getting shadows up cause flash and shield traits which stopped spells from getting interrupted, more hp, more surviving skills, generated more hate from flash, and they could match nin in haste gear....

[Wolfie]

Last time i'm gonna respond to this but PLD/NIN beat nin in every way lol Atonement > every nin ws vs hnm's for dmg. Pld had an easier time getting shadows up cause flash and shield traits which stopped spells from getting interrupted, more hp, more surviving skills, generated more hate from flash, and they could match nin in haste gear....

Dude, what part of "PLD was the better tank for HNMs" do you not get? Have I not said that like 10 f**king times already? PLD/WAR and PLD/NIN were the go-to tanks for the hardest hitting NMs because the tank needed high HP and defense.

The rest of end-game, which included Dynamis, Limbus, Salvage, lesser HNMs, KSNM, Sky, some tier1 and tier2 Sea NMs, and practically everything else was better with a NIN tank. Can you get this through your head?

[Firon]

Dude, what part of "PLD was the better tank for HNMs" do you not get? Have I not said that like 10 f**king times already? PLD/WAR and PLD/NIN were the go-to tanks for the hardest hitting NMs because the tank needed high HP and defense.

The rest of end-game, which included Dynamis, Limbus, Salvage, lesser HNMs, KSNM, Sky, some tier1 and tier2 Sea NMs, and practically everything else was better with a NIN tank. Can you get this through your head?

I'll just agree your ls played the game different and everyone else did it the pld way.

[Firon]

Somehow I seriously doubt this, because for everything except Cerberus/Tiamat/Vrtra/PW/[insert 5 hour long HNM here], people grabbed NINs to tank.

Your talking to a pld main in XI who had an Aegis who did end game for 6 years and competed vs other ls. NEVER seen a nin tank for any of those mobs cause a nin would die if they ever got hit by one of those mobs with no shadows up. Also no one is using thf on these bosses and NIN dmg was ass on these said bosses. You never fought any of these mobs.

You See these pld/nin tanking cerb in this vid... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQSmb8bEgIM