Request for Utsusemi

[viion]

The flaw I see with a blink tank...

The premise is a very flimsy tank that can't take hits that well, and instead avoids them by chaining its shadows and evading. It's cool in theory but in practice and balance, not quite so much. The issue is that for the tank to be worth a damn, you want a good player to really more or less never get hit because they are that well geared and skilled. A tank that never takes damage will always, 100% of the time be favored over the tank that has to be healed constantly. Incase you didn't notice, this is what happened in XI (though it's not to say ninjas didn't EVER get hit).

The flip side is you let them get hit, but then if they're paper-thin they're going to die, get interrupted, etc. Who wants that VS a Paladin that can take hits and not have huge damage spikes / HP dips?

If you try to balance it to where the Ninja is both beefy enough to take some hits, while shedding lots of damage with shadows as well... is it essentially a different flavor of a Paladin blocking hits with a shield at that point? I think this option might be the most balanced, since it might require more thought as to when the Ninja actually utilizes its shadows rather than just spamming through them... but in the end it's likely they would always be on CD anyway, like every Gladiator ability usually is in a fight.

I think the concept has a lot of problems, and while it might be balance-able, FFXI's version was not really that way. Utsusemi should definitely NEVER be usable by ANY class other than Ninja; I don't want to see that ever again.

In the end I think Ninja should be what it was originally intended to be: a DPS with a damage avoidance buff for if it got threat. Utsusemi did shed hate every time the mob missed you, remember?

XI's job system is nothing like this, so its silly to try compare them really.

What if you just take our existing tank, GLA:PLD and if sometime in future there is a third job on top, PLD can have a skill that allows it to dodge a skill, i mean... we have "dodge next attack" skills which is 33% there XD

[Molly_Millions]

fyi

FFXIV =/= FFXI

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Do whatever you want with ninja in ffxiv, but for god's sake, no more blink tanking. even for bards. I don't want that thing in any of my games

[AshToreth]

*roasts his marshmallows in all the OP flames*

[Jinko]

Why do we even need Utesusemi when we have stoneskin ?

I think a Ninja should be a strictly DD class/job not some wanabe tank anyway.

[viion]

Why do we even need Utesusemi when we have stoneskin ?

I think a Ninja should be a strictly DD class/job not some wanabe tank anyway.

True I'd much prefer ninja to be DD, like a thief, but shadows is still a nice skill, if SE can do it right, which is doubtful >< /sad

[Jinko]

True I'd much prefer ninja to be DD, like a thief, but shadows is still a nice skill, if SE can do it right, which is doubtful >< /sad

Yea a DD with high skills for debuffing would be nice, a high chance to blind could work just as well as utsusemi really.

Plus it would be a good opportunity for SE to bring back all those DOT's and debuffs.

Now I want Ninja

[Wirritosama]

Request for ninja before utsu, Jesus... I thought nin was badass but a tactical DD for nin in this game would be great. At this point I just want any class with dual... Utsusemi to bard? My rage is rising

[Xoo]

Request for ninja before utsu, Jesus... I thought nin was badass but a tactical DD for nin in this game would be great. At this point I just want any class with dual... Utsusemi to bard? My rage is rising

Archer to Bard? There's a club already established for Bard-rage.

[Xoo]

In other news...

I just wanna say that suddenly I know what it feels like to be Naoki Yoshida and the rest of the development team. For lack of a better phrase, the lot of you are highly presumptuous, rude, immature, demanding, fickle.. - and because they can't say it, I will - ASSHOLES.

I had not even gotten the opportunity to speak about why I thought it was a good idea (nor was it even requested) until somewhere on page 10 or 11. Instead, what I got was a wolfpack snarling and growling at, lol.. shadows. Everyone already knew exactly what to expect as if it had already been implemented and came in a few patches ago, and this thread wasn't titled "Request for Utsusemi", but, "Tell Me What You Hated Most About FFXI".

I'll be removing my nifty little signature after this post. And I give my sincere apology if I ever came off as any of the above to anyone in development.

PS: I fully expect to have this post removed, for obvious reasons, but I wanted someone out there to read it at an apporopriate time.