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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Quite honestly, they probably should've considered ARR/HW FATEs instead/additionally. If they really want to stress, better to not have it limited to an area that they'll only access near the end of the 4.0 MSQ, eh?
    Good point - I wonder what sort of crowd the horrendously elusive FATEs like the Behemoth, Proto Ultima and part 3 of Coeurlregina would bring in? And more people would be able to participate even if they're not up to the end of Stormblood yet.



    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    so they will launch a FATE in 1 world then announce it on all other world for ppl to come to this world and trying to bring it down, doesn't they?
    That's the idea, yes. Testing to see what happens when everyone rushes to a specific world for some reason, and how the servers handle it - or at what point they can't.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 04-23-2019 at 11:14 AM.

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Hard to get people to participate unless there's a juicy reward like a free Fantasia or limited time glamor. Like if they REALLY want to simulate stress (e.g. bottleneck with Raubahn at 4.0 release day), they need to give a reason for thousands of people to login and head to the FATE, otherwise people will just stay in town or do dungeons, etc and their data will be not be reflective of a true strain. Especially because MOST people have the Ixion mount by now.
    Are smoother, more stable servers heading into a brand new expansion not enough? If this has even a chance at preventing another nightmare like the Raubahn and Pippin debacles from Stormblood, then I (as well as everyone...) should really be all hands on deck for this if possible.
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  3. #63
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    The fact that some people think they need to be given incentive to help them with a stress test is proof of either 1 of 2 things: they've either never played a MMO outside of FFXIV or are brand new to the MMO genre. Sending out beta invites to thousands of players to help test server stability and content for bugs and tuning is the normal standard across 99% of MMO games. SE has always done their testing internally, but after the Raubahn EX fiasco they know that they need more help to test it out so they can fix all the issues before the game launches. Your incentive for doing this is not standing around for 48 hours spamming 1 button to hopefully get into the duty instance to progress the story. I commend SE for taking the needed steps to make sure that Shadowbringer's launch is as smooth as possible.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    The fact that some people think they need to be given incentive to help them with a stress test is proof of either 1 of 2 things: they've either never played a MMO outside of FFXIV or are brand new to the MMO genre. Sending out beta invites to thousands of players to help test server stability and content for bugs and tuning is the normal standard across 99% of MMO games. SE has always done their testing internally, but after the Raubahn EX fiasco they know that they need more help to test it out so they can fix all the issues before the game launches. Your incentive for doing this is not standing around for 48 hours spamming 1 button to hopefully get into the duty instance to progress the story. I commend SE for taking the needed steps to make sure that Shadowbringer's launch is as smooth as possible.
    Not that I'm disagreeing with people on the importance of this stress test and getting every extra person is just better data for SE but there is a bit of a difference from a beta invite for stress testing and a non-incentive test (let's exclude Ixion Fate for this) in that with a beta invite you get to play the game when normally you couldn't (and usually it's also free, and sometimes even carries progress) where here we're already playing and paying for the game. So in comparison you get a lot of value out of a beta stress test while in the later not so much, but of course I didn't mention the FATE which they did pick a fairly nice FATE to test with (so there is some value in ours as well).

    Anyway, I just wanted to say that there is an incentive to beta test and so I don't think people are that bizarre for considering one here. Of course people pointed out the very important and yet longer game incentive of helping SE is better servers but like.. come on.. long term plans (even beyond a few days).. people planning..? When the majority of any people anywhere plan longer term wake me from my slumber , maybe teach me how to do it better too lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    I'm not going to argue with that, it's a fair point. My point still stands that it will benefit everyone in the long run to try to participate in this pseudo "beta server test" and hopefully it gives SE the data they need for a smooth launch
    Agreed to your point, it will benefit everyone .
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-23-2019 at 11:59 PM.

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Not that I'm disagreeing with people on the importance of this stress test and getting every extra person is just better data for SE but there is a bit of a difference from a beta invite for stress testing and a non-incentive test (let's exclude Ixion Fate for this) in that with a beta invite you get to play the game when normally you couldn't (and usually it's also free, and sometimes even carries progress) where here we're already playing and paying for the game. So in comparison you get a lot of value out of a beta stress test while in the later not so much, but of course I didn't mention the FATE which they did pick a fairly nice FATE to test with (so there is some value in ours as well).

    Anyway, I just wanted to say that there is an incentive to beta test and so I don't think people are that bizarre for considering one here. Of course people pointed out the very important and yet longer game incentive of helping SE is better servers but like.. come on.. long term plans (even beyond a few days).. people planning..? When the majority of any people anywhere plan longer term wake me from my slumber , maybe teach me how to do it better too lol.
    I'm not going to argue with that, it's a fair point. My point still stands that it will benefit everyone in the long run to try to participate in this pseudo "beta server test" and hopefully it gives SE the data they need for a smooth launch
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  6. #66
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    Huh, I missed the memo they were doing this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention I suppose, I'll try to make it there.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Good point - I wonder what sort of crowd the horrendously elusive FATEs like the Behemoth, Proto Ultima and part 3 of Coeurlregina would bring in? And more people would be able to participate even if they're not up to the end of Stormblood yet.
    Unfortunately, without the promise of a mount for those that haven't got it yet, and minion too?, probably not much. Although damn, Coeurlregina would be nice. The wait time on those is such a killer.
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  8. #68
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    Kairo Fujima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    The fact that some people think they need to be given incentive to help them with a stress test is proof of either 1 of 2 things: they've either never played a MMO outside of FFXIV or are brand new to the MMO genre. Sending out beta invites to thousands of players to help test server stability and content for bugs and tuning is the normal standard across 99% of MMO games. SE has always done their testing internally, but after the Raubahn EX fiasco they know that they need more help to test it out so they can fix all the issues before the game launches. Your incentive for doing this is not standing around for 48 hours spamming 1 button to hopefully get into the duty instance to progress the story. I commend SE for taking the needed steps to make sure that Shadowbringer's launch is as smooth as possible.
    This. I don't give a damn about incentives. I want these servers to be stable so people won't have to waste their time trying to progress through the MSQ like Stormblood's Early Access.
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    If I die, forgive me. I used to be a Dragoon.

  9. #69
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    All of these gimme gimme gimme people are really starting to get tiresome after these last two months. GCBTW.
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    I just hope they make these FATEs easy and cheap to get to. I'm not going to spend 10 minutes of ground travel getting to one, or a 999 gil teleport fee..
    Make it so we can join it like a dungeon run, get teleported there and then return to your original position when done.
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