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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The combat generally is boring imo. But thats something I’ve said since alpha pretty much. I also think it’s too fast. (well perhaps not fast but requires far to much input for what you get out)
    The reason it’s boring though is because skills all feel lacklustre and combat never changes. It’s just a long ass glorified auto attack with a few flashy and sparkly effects that don’t really have any connection to the fight.
    Blm for example.
    Enters a fight with lets say Chaos. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4…….
    same blm goes to fight Lakshmi. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4…….
    same blm goes to fight Yojimbo. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4…….
    same blm goes to fight Kefka. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4…….
    same blm goes to fight Belias. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4…….
    same blm goes to fight anything else…. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4…….
    and so on and so on and so on…

    Boringgggg! Oh Hey new primal in 5.0 I wonder what a blm will do.. B3 > t3 > b4 > f3 > f4 > f4 > f4 > f1 > f4 > f4 >f4……. (maybe squeeze in a new job action somewhere or swap t3 for t5..) it really is mindless

    Going back to lacklustre skills the problem is nothing looks or feels powerful. And generally nothing is actually seen anyway. I play sam fairly frequently but if you hid the sen bar from me I wouldn’t be able to tell you if an attack animation was kasha or if it was gecko because outside of a different buff icon whats the difference. They’re both just flashes and sparkles lost in a myriad of flashes and sparkles from a bunch of other players..
    I don’t want action style combat or anything like that but it would be nice to feel the buttons you press actually do something more add a few sparkles to auto attack. But that’s where I feel its too fast. Constantly pressing buttons but nothing ever actually happens…. Its like the difference between smacking a red striking dummy and a blue one….
    You picked a job with probably the simplest rotation in the game—mind you, BLM rotation may be simple but it makes up for it in that you have to really know a fight to know where you can stand to perform your turret role, but that’s beside the point.

    Try doing this comparison with a busier job like BRD or NIN or SMN.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You picked a job with probably the simplest rotation in the game—mind you, BLM rotation may be simple but it makes up for it in that you have to really know a fight to know where you can stand to perform your turret role, but that’s beside the point.

    Try doing this comparison with a busier job like BRD or NIN or SMN.
    I could have done ninja bard or anything. the point was that the rotation never changes from one encounter to the next in any real way. sure bard might have a couple of extra pitch perfects or blood letters here and there but the basic rotation never really changes...

    Ninja is what.. suiton > spinning edge > gust slash > shadow fang > spinning edge > gust slash > trick attack > aoelian edge.... (might be different I dont play nin so much since servers moved and lag made it horrendous.) but every boss you fight its the exact same rotation... thus boring
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I could have done ninja bard or anything. the point was that the rotation never changes from one encounter to the next in any real way. sure bard might have a couple of extra pitch perfects or blood letters here and there but the basic rotation never really changes...

    Ninja is what.. suiton > spinning edge > gust slash > shadow fang > spinning edge > gust slash > trick attack > aoelian edge.... (might be different I dont play nin so much since servers moved and lag made it horrendous.) but every boss you fight its the exact same rotation... thus boring
    Lol! Just like every other game. You push the buttons in the best order you know to push them. Would you prefer your hot bar to randomize every tick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    I could have done ninja bard or anything. the point was that the rotation never changes from one encounter to the next in any real way. sure bard might have a couple of extra pitch perfects or blood letters here and there but the basic rotation never really changes...

    Ninja is what.. suiton > spinning edge > gust slash > shadow fang > spinning edge > gust slash > trick attack > aoelian edge.... (might be different I dont play nin so much since servers moved and lag made it horrendous.) but every boss you fight its the exact same rotation... thus boring
    Combat is faster-paced at level cap. Add in the mechanical dance from higher tier content, it's far from boring, in my opinion.

    But if you're looking for a job where you can YOLO a rotation, I don't think you'll find it in this game.
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