Why its hard to play ff14

[SannaR]

If you think the fighting is slow in XIV then please don't go and play XI that's 15 years old and unless you play a caster there it's all auto attacks until you have enough TP to do a weapon skill. I mean yes there are actions you can do before you can use a weapon skill, but it really just boils down to slowly whacking at a thing over there.

ARR's story does have pacing issues and the devs are aware of them and more recently have been talking about fixing it. It's just right now that's kind of low on the order of things as I'm sure everyone else would like them to test the crap out of any early story instances that are in Shadowbringers and that they actually balance and change the jobs to where a lot of players are happy and not wondering if the devs were too sleep deprived when they came up with those changes. That and they are also probably checking on their end the world visit system so that runs somewhat smoothly once they flip the switch for us players.

[Minro]

Well ive been playing mmos for years and have noticed a decline in popularity for tab targeting bc action combat feels better and is in every way better(its a fact,you can have an opinion saying you like the combat but when people hear an mmo has action combat they jump on it fast af), all im saying about the combat is that if they dont fix the things like gravity and the fact that it feels stiff this game isnt going to continue for much longer

I do play with friends and thats the only time I really play bc I got lvl gated from progression which is a fun concept in every mmo

If you say look at 11's combat and compare it then how about you look at 15's combat, the game is known as a critical masterpiece even with its flaws, they just did them right

Also im hearing a lot people saying that this is my opinion when not really, m opinion for the game is that its good but I just want the devs to make it amazing bc its easily possible

[BoazJochin]

Well ive been playing mmos for years and have noticed a decline in popularity for tab targeting bc action combat feels better and is in every way better(its a fact,you can have an opinion saying you like the combat but when people hear an mmo has action combat they jump on it fast af), all im saying about the combat is that if they dont fix the things like gravity and the fact that it feels stiff this game isnt going to continue for much longer

I do play with friends and thats the only time I really play bc I got lvl gated from progression which is a fun concept in every mmo

If you say look at 11's combat and compare it then how about you look at 15's combat, the game is known as a critical masterpiece even with its flaws, they just did them right

Also im hearing a lot people saying that this is my opinion when not really, m opinion for the game is that its good but I just want the devs to make it amazing bc its easily possible

I hate to say this but when XIV first came out it was action based and frankly the community rioted along with all the other crap that they did to XIV. If your not aware FF has a large fan base that has been following the games 20+ years. America isn't the major following. Asia is the Giant following. Just like the Kardashians are an america thing doesn't mean it is great in Aisia. Fortunately FF fans are global. If it wasn't a great game you wouldn't have people subscribing and you wouldn't have people playing still and waited for them to fix FFXIV from it's original launch.

[Ilan]

1. Changing the complete combat system is not easy at all and it is most certainly not a thing that you could do in a month.
2. There are people that prefer action based combat systems and there are people that prefer tab based combat systems. SE will not take the risk to spook all these players away just to satisfy a few others. Both systems have a lot of pro's and con's.

[Gula]

If you take such umbrage with the game, then delete your character, remove your account and play something single player where the focus is purely a single aspect to your liking.

You're fighting against every single post and I see no benefit to you to keep playing. One poof of an account will not stop the hundreds of thousands from coming back in droves come 5.0, nor affect the current player base who don't have the same grievances as you. You're still in the meh part of the game without seeing how much it's grown from the OST, to the lore and to mechanics.

[guardin]

If you take such umbrage with the game, then delete your character, remove your account and play something single player where the focus is purely a single aspect to your liking.

You're fighting against every single post and I see no benefit to you to keep playing. One poof of an account will not stop the hundreds of thousands from coming back in droves come 5.0, nor affect the current player base who don't have the same grievances as you. You're still in the meh part of the game without seeing how much it's grown from the OST, to the lore and to mechanics.

this was unnecessary and adds nothing to her posts. You are giving the community an unwelcoming feeling by belittling a fellow player. you dont have to kiss up but you certainly didnt have to be so rude and cold.

[Gula]

this was unnecessary and adds nothing to her posts. You are giving the community an unwelcoming feeling by belittling a fellow player. you dont have to kiss up but you certainly didnt have to be so rude and cold.

Call Soken, let's see if he can play the world's smallest violin.

[Minro]

My big point is ive seen mmos grow and ive seen others die and you have to understand that yes since the new xpac is coming out but people will just get bored after theyre done after that (again) my max lvl buddies said they finished everything and are waiting for new content so they spend all their time on helping guildies lvl and thats good but bad for the game bc it shows that after a point youre just done (class advancement wise, not counting crafting and stuff)

Most of the counter arguments im seeing are one like (dont play if you dont like it) if you said that just reread the part where I said I like the game but I want the flaws to be addressed, you can sit behind your pc or console and deny it but in reality 14 has really good systems but if they changed certain things the game wouldnt have low viewer rates on twitch and youtube, with low viewer rates that means that the game isnt that much fun to watch and therefore not that much fun to play, there are points where the game is fun like housing/guilds, the big bosses that are close to raids for early lvls and the casino (i forgot what its called)

i understand that its a video game and people can play it however they want but its different when its an mmo, mmos rely on their community and those communities wouldnt be a thing if people didnt have friends to play with, the main reason I got back into the game after trying it around launch is bc my buddy said it was fun and good and I come back and I still see some problems that existed since then

[Lozza]

What apparently makes the game unfun for you however is fun for a lot of other players. I've played many MMOs myself, and I still play several. In this era there is no need to restrict yourself to one game, most MMOs cater primarily to casual players who may play several games. However I wouldn't play several MMOs if they were all the same, offering all the same things.

GW2, BDO, Tera, ESO, and B&S all offer action combat. I've played all of them, and I still play ESO regularly and GW2 sometimes when I need the fix for more action combat. However when I want to play "stand and spam" FFXIV is there for me. Wildstar also had action combat, and was perhaps one of my favourite combat systems in an MMO - Wildstar however no longer exists.

The more subdued environment (art direction) is also something I like. I hate hyper saturated games like WoW it was one of the things that has turned me off the game literally every time I have tried to play it. Continuing on from the list above Tera, GW2, and B&S might appeal to you more since they are bright and colourful rather than the more subdued and pastel palette that FFXIV uses.

As for the story... The ARR is on par for the course in terms of MMO stories. Honestly I was surprised by how good the story started to get around 2.4. This is also another thing that keeps me playing the game.

I understand the desire to transpose one game you enjoyed on to your new game. I've seen it on literally every game forum ever but the things you believe to be "flaws" others like myself don't see as flaws, they are features that attract us to this game.

You say that people get bored and take breaks and that is bad, one thing that MMO devs have discovered over the years is that players tend to devour content many, many times fast than they can produce it. An expansion takes 18 months or so of work - players are done within 3 days of release. Players are always going to get bored. It's impossible to create content fast enough to satisfy them and on the occasion when FFXIV created content that was more difficult to complete than could be cleared in a few days it absolutely destroyed the raid community. Your desired changes are not going to change the time it takes to produce content nor the time it takes to players to consume it.

YouTube and Twitch views do not make a popular game - I never watch Twitch or YouTube for games I play, I frequently watch games I have no intention of ever playing though. I never even use Twitch or YouTube to inform my purchases. People who are enjoying the game are playing the game, not watching others play it.

Finally this game isn't "dying", and I say that as someone who has played many games that now no longer exist.

[Minro]

sorry dude but the game is gonna die if it doesnt fix the FLAWS, if you reread what I typed i have pet pieves sure but the flaws im pointing towards is mainly movement in general, why is the game so clunky when all i wanna do is run, why is gcd wonky as fuck, im pretty biased bc I played other games that I found fun and want to nick pick from them to put in this one but ive played all those and yes i liekd the combat and visuals but story was lacking and community was afk, also the community is irritating at most times bc I prefer to heal in dungs and when someone dies bc they pulled everything and didnt use buffs they all kick me, this has happened quite a few times (thats not a point I just wanted to throw that in there too)

Im sorry but you may not use it but youtube and twitch are a huge supplier of people being drawn in, just remember that if a huge twitch personality plays 14 and says its good then bam easily 5k people will play or at least around that and from my eyes thats a huge difference from having no push in the gaming community

Saturated content is good, thats what keeps players continue playing and if it takes a year and a half to make an xpac then us the remaining to upgrade the game and not use it to makes mounts (also I believe it was tera that allowed you to choose between its original combat and its action combat and wow 90% of the community chose action)