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    They already responded to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I would make very little sense for them to do any significant investment in Male viera beyond concept art or mock-up models until the OK was given. No we don't know for sure but I can say it's highly unlikely from what I know about game development.



    Doesn't matter why.. but they were. Which implies little to no investment in the chance that they'd implement them.
    Regardless of how we ended up where we are, or what decisions were made to get here. Whether they made good business decisions or no decisions at all on mock-ups or lack there of, I'm just requesting feedback from the devs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Was there a fiasco? I certainly don't remember people being near as upset.
    I was so upset I put one of my socks on outside-in and my foot felt smooshy all day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RikkCavalier View Post
    It would make more sense that they did make male viera models and presented them for Yoshi or whoever made the decision to say, "no, let's do an all male Hrothgar race instead."
    No it wouldn't. Making models for races consumes resources. They always start with concept arts and when approved they take it a step further into the actual 3d modeling part (take a look at Zenos concept arts). They don't make the 3d models and then wait for the approval after they wasted their time making them.

    And speculations based on previous events hold more weight than speculations that contradict those events.
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    They have already answered these questions in countless interviews. I recommend Mr Happy's, it's probably the most exhaustive:

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    Quote Originally Posted by RikkCavalier View Post
    Regardless of how we ended up where we are, or what decisions were made to get here. Whether they made good business decisions or no decisions at all on mock-ups or lack there of, I'm just requesting feedback from the devs.
    I personally hope they don't waste any more time with the constant nagging I've seen about this topic. I want to hear about 5.0 and the things they've already spent time on and how the game is actually changing.
    Everything is content, truly, but this "give us blahblah gender for blahblah" , I feel, is whining about cosmetics.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    They said they were going to look into and if they were going to give a response, it's not going to be in a vague titled thread in the official forums. You should know by now we get our information about the future dev work through interviews, official news pages PLLs and other news oulets.
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    You've been around since 2011, you should know by now that we typically don't get announcements; or even acknowledgements, outside of Live Letters. If anything is addressed further it will be in the May Live Letter or a later letter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    No it wouldn't. Making models for races consumes resources. They always start with concept arts and when approved they take it a step further into the actual 3d modeling part (take a look at Zenos concept arts). They don't make the 3d models and then wait for the approval after they wasted their time making them.

    And speculations based on previous events hold more weight than speculations that contradict those events.
    I said they made male viera concept art. Read the thread. The model comment was in response to someone. And I didn't say fully completed models. You wouldn't present full models for a decision, you would submit roughs. I just find it hard to believe they made such a big decision without further research, testing, hell even asking the community even. I agree with you on speculation based on history. This is why everyone was shocked they repeated another genderlock.
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    In the hypothetical situation that they do address this and go back on their original plan in the long run, there is no way that they'd announce it outside of a large event like a fanfest, live letter or convention. After all, they are a corporation and will take any and every chance they can get to try and turn any missteps in to a chance to profit and gain goodwill with fans. Don't make threads like this as they only serve to agitate, your time is better spent keeping the discussion alive and organized within the two massive threads we already have about this issue.
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