Devs, can we please have a response?

[Krotoan]

Things we KNOW:
They didn't originally plan to have alt genders for the 2 new races.
Implementing them will require substantial development and implementation. (As would any new "unique" bodies/models)
The last thing we were told, relatively recently, was "we were surprised with the reaction and are monitoring the response. Implementing further genders is a possibility"
This team takes a LONG time to implement fan requests.


Based on all that? .. hold on. At least 2 months for any info at all.

[RikkCavalier]

Things we KNOW:
They didn't originally plan to have alt genders for the 2 new races.
Implementing them will require substantial development and implementation. (As would any new "unique" bodies/models)
The last thing we were told, relatively recently, was "we were surprised with the reaction and are monitoring the response. Implementing further genders is a possibility"
This team takes a LONG time to implement fan requests.


Based on all that? .. hold on. At least 2 months for any info at all.

They did originally plan to have both genders. They created concept art for male viera. Early plans, but still plans. Now whether they created models for them or not, who knows. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. It would make more sense that they did make male viera models and presented them for Yoshi or whoever made the decision to say, "no, let's do an all male Hrothgar race instead." Again, until we hear from the devs, it's all speculation. And, I don't know why they were surprised about the reaction, given the fiasco of genderlocking Roe and Miquote in 1.0.

[Duskane]

They did originally plan to have both genders. They created concept art for male viera. Early plans, but still plans. Now whether they created models for them or not, who knows. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. It would make more sense that they did make male viera models and presented them for Yoshi or whoever made the decision to say, "no, let's do an all male Hrothgar race instead." Again, until we hear from the devs, it's all speculation. And, I don't know why they were surprised about the reaction, given the fiasco of genderlocking Roe and Miquote in 1.0.

other way round
male and female hrothgar was the plan but went well people want viera so male hrothgar and female viera happen

[Krotoan]

They did originally plan to have both genders. They created concept art for male viera. Early plans, but still plans. Now whether they created models for them or not, who knows. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. It would make more sense that they did make male viera models and presented them for Yoshi or whoever made the decision to say, "no, let's do an all male Hrothgar race instead."

I would make very little sense for them to do any significant investment in Male viera beyond concept art or mock-up models until the OK was given. No we don't know for sure but I can say it's highly unlikely from what I know about game development.

And, I don't know why they were surprised about the reaction, given the fiasco of genderlocking Roe and Miquote in 1.0.

Doesn't matter why.. but they were. Which implies little to no investment in the chance that they'd implement them.

[RikkCavalier]

I would make very little sense for them to do any significant investment in Male viera beyond concept art or mock-up models until the OK was given. No we don't know for sure but I can say it's highly unlikely from what I know about game development.



Doesn't matter why.. but they were. Which implies little to no investment in the chance that they'd implement them.

Regardless of how we ended up where we are, or what decisions were made to get here. Whether they made good business decisions or no decisions at all on mock-ups or lack there of, I'm just requesting feedback from the devs.

[Krotoan]

Regardless of how we ended up where we are, or what decisions were made to get here. Whether they made good business decisions or no decisions at all on mock-ups or lack there of, I'm just requesting feedback from the devs.

I personally hope they don't waste any more time with the constant nagging I've seen about this topic. I want to hear about 5.0 and the things they've already spent time on and how the game is actually changing.
Everything is content, truly, but this "give us blahblah gender for blahblah" , I feel, is whining about cosmetics.

[Kyuuen]

You've been around since 2011, you should know by now that we typically don't get announcements; or even acknowledgements, outside of Live Letters. If anything is addressed further it will be in the May Live Letter or a later letter.

[RikkCavalier]

You've been around since 2011, you should know by now that we typically don't get announcements; or even acknowledgements, outside of Live Letters. If anything is addressed further it will be in the May Live Letter or a later letter.

That's not true. The devs have responded directly to players in the past few weeks in the Japanese forums.

[Kyuuen]

That's not true. The devs have responded directly to players in the past few weeks in the Japanese forums.

Then learn some Japanese and fish for a response there, but you are unlikely to get a response here outside of a Live Letter.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

They did originally plan to have both genders. They created concept art for male viera. Early plans, but still plans. Now whether they created models for them or not, who knows. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. It would make more sense that they did make male viera models and presented them for Yoshi or whoever made the decision to say, "no, let's do an all male Hrothgar race instead." Again, until we hear from the devs, it's all speculation. And, I don't know why they were surprised about the reaction, given the fiasco of genderlocking Roe and Miquote in 1.0.

Was there a fiasco? I certainly don't remember people being near as upset.