Why are standards seen as a crime in this game?

[van_arn]

That shouldn't be relevant that is your personal option and on your personal options no one else is entitled to comment on, can only add that fortunately there are still those who offer consideration to such situations and for you to let them do their way and mind your own gaming, simple as live and let live.

And they're welcome to do so, at their discretion. But no one is under any obligation to do the same, and that is really not an opinion.

[AnnaRosa]

And they're welcome to do so, at their discretion. But no one is under any obligation to do the same, and that is not an opinion.

But I don't know why is this even on the debate side because I never wrote that other players are under any obligation what I actually wrote is that would be helpful if persons have the ability to put on the other players shoes and do not jump fast into assumptions of "does not want to play the game My WaAaYyYy" and might be other situation irl, on how one decide to do the content is their personal decision.
Personally don't mind if other players have different rotations for the same roles or for one reason or other miss one or other aoe doesn't make me go hysterical or cry like a baby in foruns setting a huge fuss

I don’t think the way to do that is to automatically assume that an individual is burdened with a mental or physical illness. Most people that I know who have mental or physical illnesses would much rather people treat them like normal people—not give them special benefit of the doubts because of ailments they may not be able to control.

Personally won't assume either that an individual is just playing the game in a sense it doesn't want to play the game like it was described many times here always keep in mind those possibilities and do not treat them differently.

I think what Awha is pointing out is, a normal human's base response to someone doing poorly is "They can do better." You're advocating, essentially, to have shut lips because if they're not doing well they could be brain-damaged. Even if that's not what you said, that is what it comes off as to the observer.

It can be any situation we have no way to know and it can be also that at that moment they can't do better and even if others get that upset with "their do better" instead of complaining in forums perhaps giving the best example in game would be of much better help.

[SenorPatty]

It can be any situation we have no way to know and it can be also that at that moment they can't do better and even if others get that upset with "their do better" instead of complaining in forums perhaps giving the best example in game would be of much better help.

The exact thing could be said about the players being told they can do better but instead complain about it on the forums, cause believe me we do have people playing victim when it's made clear they could do better. How about improving themselves in the game and thus setting an example to others? That would be of much better help to everyone else.

[Dualgunner]

It can be any situation we have no way to know and it can be also that at that moment they can't do better and even if others get that upset with "their do better" instead of complaining in forums perhaps giving the best example in game would be of much better help.

Again, your argument sounds like "Assume anyone doing poorly is disabled in some way." That's terrible.

[HyoMinPark]

Personally won't assume either that an individual is just playing the game in a sense it doesn't want to play the game like it was described many times here always keep in mind those possibilities and do not treat them differently.

I treat everyone the same. I just disagree with your premise that we should treat people differently on the assumption that maybe they have other things going on that are out of their control. If you didn’t mean mental or physical illnesses, then I apologize for misunderstanding. But your talk of psychotherapy is what pointed me in that direction.

I think you should cool it on the meme speak, though. I’m guessing that the three quotes I quoted from you originally were made like that on purpose. If that’s the case, there’s no need for that. Make your arguments more intelligible, and maybe people would stop misunderstanding what you’re saying.

The more I read.. the more I'm thinking english isn't their first language. .. I hope.

Given the way they keep typing “my wAaaYyayyY” or whatever, I’m guessing that they’re trying to meme? I’m not entirely sure though.

[HyoMinPark]

Yes that can happen the list that can affect one player concentration is vast and unfortunately are things that aren't under our control so whats the big news here? None.
Its for you to have notion you are playing with flawed humans and not with perfect robots.

I don’t think the way to do that is to automatically assume that an individual is burdened with a mental or physical illness. Most people that I know who have mental or physical illnesses would much rather people treat them like normal people—not give them special benefit of the doubts because of ailments they may not be able to control.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Because standards are subjective. Subjectiveness often leads to disagreement, and disagreement often leads to conflict. It's just a natural part of dealing with other people, which is kind of the point of an MMO game. I put up with you, you put up with me, and hopefully we make it all work out. If it doesn't, then we all take the L and try again later.

lol the tank often screws the healer with the cornor bs large pull fine all good but if your not going to pop your cds defensive you better not pull extra large groups... plain and simple the cd defenses is the difference between 3k mp and 9k mp on healers .

plus there are many tanks that out right keep pulling more than their hp can handle running out of range to keep grabbing then blaming healer lol sorry but the pace is set based on the effectiveness of the healer lol

[FFgame]

Slow pulling tanks, heals that stand like idiots with 90% mana instead of dpsing.

[kidalutz]

Slow pulling tanks, heals that stand like idiots with 90% mana instead of dpsing.

BLMs that stand in bad cause mah deeps bruh.

BLMs that stand away from the group in Omega and need rezzed again cause Mah Deeps Bruh.

[Lissyl]

I routinely try to look up things on fights and learn what I'm doing, but I'm pretty sure this thread has dissuaded me from trying to raid here. It's depressing to me how much play has changed in the last 15 years.