PS3 Graphics

[Rydin]

Radeon Mobility GPUs are coded diferently, a 5870M is equal to (in fact a little worst) a 5670 (desktop), a 5650M is like a 5450 and so on. Nvidia on mid range cards is generally better on laptops.

Here you have a comparison:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Compari...rds.130.0.html

A mobility 5870 is roughly equivalent to a discrete 460 (And in fact the mobility 5870 will edge it out slightly)
Mobility meaning in a laptop... discrete meaning a full card...
So it will OBVIOUSLY outperform a 460m
I know what I'm saying, you have to trust me on this one

[Signy]

A mobility 5870 is roughly equivalent to a discrete 460 (And in fact the mobility 5870 will edge it out slightly)
Mobility meaning in a laptop... discrete meaning a full card...
So it will OBVIOUSLY outperform a 460m
I know what I'm saying

On laptop terms a discrete GPU is the one that it isn't integrated on the motherboard and is connected by a port, it can or can't have its own memory.

Compare the results:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mob...0.23073.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...M.33612.0.html

[Deli]

I've actually just sent my laptop out for RMA. I've requested a different model, because I have had to RMA the G73-JH five times! I asked for the G73-SW, because it comes with an nVidia Gefore GTX 460M which plays the game a hell of a lot more smoother than my Radeon HD 5870 and they are both comparable cards. I spoke to a manager over the phone and now I'm just waiting to hear back from them. If not, I think that I'll probably be going with the PS3. I'm sure the graphics will be high enough quality and I'm more interested in stability then how many npcs will be displayed.

I have a G53-SW I can play the game with standard no problem. I occasionally open the setting to max to take nice screen shot. little laggy on max setting. So I guess G73-SW will do slightly better

[Rydin]

On laptop terms a discrete GPU is the one that it isn't integrated on the motherboard and is connected by a port, it can or can't have its own memory.

Compare the results:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mob...0.23073.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...M.33612.0.html

Are you looking at synthetic tests are real world game FPS?
Either way, The 460m falls short
But not by much..... trading in 1 for the other wont help anyone

[Ethari]

I have the Radeon HD 5870M. I've seen the GTX 460M perform on the same settings as the Radeon and it definitely does a better job. With the Radeon, I was unable to use any anti-aliasing settings or run any shadows. The GTX 460M was able to handle both without any lag. Also, the 5870M has been highly unstable. When I first started playing, I had to use a custom vbios to fix a GSOD and BSOD problem that should have never hit the market. So in terms of hardware a 5870 should be able to do better, but the truth is it has just been a shitty card due to instability.

[Rydin]

I have the Radeon HD 5870M. I've seen the GTX 460M perform on the same settings as the Radeon and it definitely does a better job. With the Radeon, I was unable to use any anti-aliasing settings or run any shadows. The GTX 460M was able to handle both without any lag. Also, the 5870M has been highly unstable. When I first started playing, I had to use a custom vbios to fix a GSOD and BSOD problem that should have never hit the market. So in terms of hardware a 5870 should be able to do better, but the truth is it has just been a shitty card due to instability.

my experience is just the opposite... I've had the 460 run super hot and buggy on all the notebooks I've worked on

[Ethari]

In the G73 series, the fans are placed in the back and do an excellent job of displacing the heat generated by the cpu and gpu. Overheating hasn't been my issue, the hd 5870 has just died on me several times since I have owned this laptop. I haven't attempted to overclock and my computer never lags right when I get it back from RMA, but after a while it starts to stutter and then goes downhill from there until i hit BSODs.

[Mishakai]

I've found that the game runs better if I lower the drawing quality a bit. I used to run everything on Highest, but I bumped down drawing quality to High (8), or sometimes 9. Shadow quality is also something I don't run on the highest setting anymore. I turn it down to the point it becomes visually distracting, then bump it up one notch.

Drawing quality controls the number of polygons used to render everything. A lot of cards handle lower polygon counts w/ AA better than they handle higher polygon counts w/o AA.

In game, I have it set for 60fps cap. When I had drawing quality set to Highest, I'd have to lower that to 30fps to avoid serious lag in combat w/ particle effects and such.

[Ethari]

Also from my experience, ffxiv has been optimized for nVidia cards and the shaders on the 5870 seem to struggle in densely forested areas (aka every time I tried to do botany leves when my card was acting up, fps was non-existent).

[Rydin]

I've found that the game runs better if I lower the drawing quality a bit. I used to run everything on Highest, but I bumped down drawing quality to High (8), or sometimes 9. Shadow quality is also something I don't run on the highest setting anymore. I turn it down to the point it becomes visually distracting, then bump it up one notch.

Drawing quality controls the number of polygons used to render everything. A lot of cards handle lower polygon counts w/ AA better than they handle higher polygon counts w/o AA.

In game, I have it set for 60fps cap. When I had drawing quality set to Highest, I'd have to lower that to 30fps to avoid serious lag in combat w/ particle effects and such.

This is very true... 10 is the equivalent to double buffering, if I recall....
8 is standard...
I run Max on everything (at 1920x1080) and 8 on draw quality and it works great