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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Damage boost? It'd be tricky to balance because either it'd be weaker than Melee/Caster and thus never be used still, or it'll be stronger and be the desired one... I suppose maybe there's some room for having it be more potent than Melee/Caster ones if you can maintain uptime throughout the duration, with Melee/Caster taking over for the times where you need faster burst.
    A party capable of clearing Omega12 is doing 42,000ish total dps.

    Melee Limit Breaks per use are about 370k.

    The Ranged Limitbreak doesn't -only- have to boost damage.

    At 5% increased damage, it takes about 180 seconds to surpass Melee Limit Break, assuming it has the same cast time. To put this down to a sane time limit, we can increase this to 20% (thus reducing the TTP to 45 seconds)

    LB1: Grants 20% movement speed for 30seconds.
    LB2: Grants 20% movement speed and reduces Cast times by 100% for 30 seconds.
    LB3: Grants 20% movement speed, reduces cast times by 100%, and increases damage dealt by 20% for 30 seconds.

    You get to be Ranged!

    And YOU get to be Ranged!

    WE ALL GET TO BE RANGED!
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    Last edited by Kabooa; 04-19-2019 at 01:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    A party capable of clearing Omega12 is doing 42,000ish total dps.

    Melee Limit Breaks per use are about 370k.

    The Ranged Limitbreak doesn't -only- have to boost damage.

    At 5% increased damage, it takes about 180 seconds to surpass Melee Limit Break, assuming it has the same cast time. To put this down to a sane time limit, we can increase this to 20% (thus reducing the TTP to 45 seconds)

    LB1: Grants 20% movement speed for 30seconds.
    LB2: Grants 20% movement speed and reduces Cast times by 100% for 30 seconds.
    LB3: Grants 20% movement speed, reduces cast times by 100%, and increases damage dealt by 20% for 30 seconds.

    You get to be Ranged!

    And YOU get to be Ranged!

    WE ALL GET TO BE RANGED!
    Maybe throw in some ignore positional requirements somewhere. Given that melee (Aside from SAM) don't care about cast time reductions.

    Sure, Tanks get the short end of the stick, but ehh... Since when have SE ever cared about them anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Maybe throw in some ignore positional requirements somewhere. Given that melee (Aside from SAM) don't care about cast time reductions.

    Sure, Tanks get the short end of the stick, but ehh... Since when have SE ever cared about them anyway...
    I'm sorry, I guess a 20% damage increase wasn't generous enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    I'm sorry, I guess a 20% damage increase wasn't generous enough.
    Well, Casters are getting 20% damage increase AND bypassing their one weakness.

    mDPS/rDPS are getting only the 20% damage increase (Also only on level 3)

    That said, this also is very tilted towards RDM because then they can just spam their Verthunder/Veraero constantly for the duration >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Well, Casters are getting 20% damage increase AND bypassing their one weakness.

    mDPS/rDPS are getting only the 20% damage increase (Also only on level 3)

    That said, this also is very tilted towards RDM because then they can just spam their Verthunder/Veraero constantly for the duration >.>
    Let me point out that if we added the "Ignore positionals" part, then your criticism is that Tanks, who are ignored in your opinion, don't get anything while everyone else gets to play like them for a short duration.

    Except for, you know, the being able to survive stuff part.

    Tanks don't get anything extra because the only thing they -could- get is extending their melee range to 25y.
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