Blue Mage is not a solo job

[ElexDestruction]

I no everyone has been calling blue mage a solo job but it really isn't. The current endgame content for blue mage is the masked carnival. Unfortunately if you intend to do the bosses the intended way <not blowing them up> you will need the use of certain blue mage spells that can not be soloed as a lv 50 blue. You have to find a group and get the spell. I enjoy playing this job but most of the time I feel like a little lalafell with a tin cup in duty finder , holding my cup up to duty finder saying " Excuse me sir, care to spare some help?" I really enjoy the masked tower and think they had the right idea with it. You can learn some spells off enemy's in it and wish they would have went more in this direction for learning spells.

Care to share your thoughts.

[ReiMakoto]

Unless they do something to really mix up how BLU works next update (Which I severely doubt given the calibre of the skills we have now), it will be the same with level 60 BLU, except there will be some harder masked carnival or solo instance. To get the skills you'll still need to grind get carried through primal fights for max efficiency, (especially with the cap moving to 80 for other classes).

Also not to bear in mind is overworld leveling will be more tedious now, Heavensward overworld mobs are tankier, and you can't just thousand needle cheese like you did before.

Overall they've made a "Solo Oriented Job" that is anything but. Personally I would want it to be a full job, with the skill collecting staying as a mini-game they update every now and then that doesnt work in current content, but there are other threads talking about that.

[Kalise]

Also not to bear in mind is overworld leveling will be more tedious now, Heavensward overworld mobs are tankier, and you can't just thousand needle cheese like you did before.

On the flip-side, if you have the Aetheryte Earrings, they're nuts for amping up BLU's massive base experience gains.

That, and well... Who doesn't have Doom/Tail Screw these days to cheese through HW overworld mobs? If anything, these can make it easier because unlike with Needles you won't hit a point where you have to land 2-3 Needles to kill enemies, it's just an insta-kill spell (Plus 1 damage. So that you get credit for Doom and finish off the target with Tail Screw)

I no everyone has been calling blue mage a solo job but it really isn't.

Yeah, people called it this because when it was being teased, that's what it was touted as. "Designed for Solo play. Not suitable for Parties"

In reality, you can't even finish your job quests without a party to get you Glower (Maybe you can farm Alexandrite maps and hope for a Cyclops and then hope that those Cyclops use Glower)

With many other key spells (Including ones that are needed to make your rotation DPS not trash) being locked behind level 50 duties...

Care to share your thoughts.

I feel that pretty much everything about this implementation of BLU is a disappointment.

* Learning abilities was fun, until I came across low learn chance ones inside duties (Some of which were required...)

* Masked Carnivale was fun, until it became apparent that it wasn't particularly well designed nor something that necessarily had to be unique to BLU and not have just been a solo arena system for all jobs (Akin to the Coliseum in Kingdom Hearts and the battle arena in XIII-2)

* "Overpowered" spells were fun, until I found that literally anything I would actually want to use them on, are blanket immune to them.

* Combo spells were fun, until I realized that the ones that aren't immuned by bosses (Or Diminishing Returns on CC effects) are no better than just spamming Glower (Or whatever other 130 potency magic skill you wish to use as a filler)

* Picking spells from a list was fun, until I noticed that 90% of the skills are completely worthless - Even for having fun. (With maybe a handful of "Useful" ones that are seemingly just there to tick off the box in Masked Carnivale despite how clunky or awfully designed they are, such as Loom)

But really, the biggest disappointment of all is how limited the job is. With no obvious reasoning, due to the fact that it plays just like any other job. The fact that I can't even use the damn thing 99% of the time is so annoying. Like, leveling it up was pretty trash and then 40-50 it started to pick up a little as I got skills for an actual rotation and gear that made damage not abysmal... Then level cap at 50 and nothing left to do other than Carnivale and maybe putting some teams together through PF to meme through some content with 4-8 BLU's spamming Glower/White Wind...

[ReiMakoto]

On the flip-side, if you have the Aetheryte Earrings, they're nuts for amping up BLU's massive base experience gains.

That, and well... Who doesn't have Doom/Tail Screw these days to cheese through HW overworld mobs? If anything, these can make it easier because unlike with Needles you won't hit a point where you have to land 2-3 Needles to kill enemies, it's just an insta-kill spell (Plus 1 damage. So that you get credit for Doom and finish off the target with Tail Screw)

The most efficient way to level is fighting things that are a higher level than you, so Dooming and Tail Screwing will not only be slow cos rng but also slow because you'll be getting less exp because you're fighting stuff of the same level, or lower. It will likely be the fastest way of leveling though, how engaging, put something to sleep then spam tail screw till it hits-> repeat, just as interesting as needle mage.

[Valdima]

My opinion of blue mage can be summed up by a very commonly used word: Why?

Whats the point in the end? Why would I want to grind all of this stuff? What do I get after all that work? Besides a shiny 50 next to BLU on my search info that tells everyone that I'm perfectly efficient at spamming one skill over and over for hours.

My wife and I quickly found out its most definately not a solo class. The best way we found to get the spells was to have one of us use a level 70 and poke the mob untill it used the skill we needed, then kill it. Thats not even mentioning dungeons and trials.


I guess at the end of the day its fun to use bad breath or spit fish at people, but why?


I'm sad.

[CorbinDallas]

The most efficient way to level is fighting things that are a higher level than you, so Dooming and Tail Screwing will not only be slow cos rng but also slow because you'll be getting less exp because you're fighting stuff of the same level, or lower. It will likely be the fastest way of leveling though, how engaging, put something to sleep then spam tail screw till it hits-> repeat, just as interesting as needle mage.

Doom/Tail Screw/Missile flat out don't work on things higher level than you, it says so in the tooltips.

[Kalise]

The most efficient way to level is fighting things that are a higher level than you, so Dooming and Tail Screwing will not only be slow cos rng but also slow because you'll be getting less exp because you're fighting stuff of the same level, or lower. It will likely be the fastest way of leveling though, how engaging, put something to sleep then spam tail screw till it hits-> repeat, just as interesting as needle mage.

To be honest, the other thing that might happen is mass pulling enemies, putting them to sleep and then Bristle/Moon Flute/Self Destruct combo (I dunno if you can get experience this way or not...) though this also is not particularly great against higher level stuff because if you miss you're literally dead...

Unless they release a new skill to exploit while leveling.

Though, the fastest way to level is still to get a high level friend to kill enemies after you tag them while not being in a party. Which is how people leveled 1-50 in like 1 hour.

Either way, it won't be particularly interesting. But at least it'll be fast, so you can get to max level super quick and then shelf the class because you run out of things to do in 5 minutes.

[ReiMakoto]

Doom/Tail Screw/Missile flat out don't work on things higher level than you, it says so in the tooltips.

I know? Thats what I said?

[Kalise]

Oh look, another "Let's bitch about BLU" topic. Not like we haven't had twenty billion of them since it was released in February. How inventive OP. you gonna make a "release MVeira/FHrothgar" topic next?

Oh look, another person complaining about multiple threads being made on the same topic, who feels compelled to post in new threads and thus bump them up to the front of the forum.

Instead of... Not clicking on the thread and waiting for it to get pushed off the front pages where it can gracefully rest without bothering anyone...

[GenericMagus]

Still more active than what most BLUs are doing nowadays. I haven't seen a BLU PF in a month now.

Also, different threads can lead to different perspectives on the topic and differing view points.