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  1. #1
    Player
    Xau's Avatar
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    Nial Niffelh
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Positionals are fine for some added skill gap with melee classes. However, after leveling Monk, I do feel that job goes a bit overboard compared to the others. Especially with the attack speed they have, having to constantly move back and forth while dealing with problem tanks who can't keep the boss still or enemy mechanics that turn the mob can be an exercise in frustration. Samurai and Ninja have two positionals. Dragoon will have just three after expac hits. Monk has SIX.
    if the way you play monk is flank>back>flank>back and so on, you are doing it wrong, monks pair their opo-opo/raptor flank attacks as well their opo-opo/raptor back attacks, so it feels more like 4 positionals rather than 6(in otherwords flank>flank>back>back>back>flank>flank>flank>flank>back>back>back and so on)
    as for tanks who can't stand still, ask them to stop that, tell them something on the lines of: please stop repositioning the boss all the time, i understand why for aoes, but when there is none there is no need of repositioning

    most tanks what does that aren't aware what melees has positionals what boost their damage, so is better tell them so they are aware of that
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    Last edited by Xau; 06-26-2019 at 06:28 AM.

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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    some skills make sense (trick attack) others not so much
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    Lotharius Lionheart
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    With the patch notes out from just reading them it appears samurai only has 1 positional and that's it and with the huge buffs made to samurai if the other melee DPS screw up on there positional abilities enough they will fall behind in DPS. They need to review the positional abilities on the other 3 melee DPS and take a look at reducing them.
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
    With the patch notes out from just reading them it appears samurai only has 1 positional and that's it and with the huge buffs made to samurai if the other melee DPS screw up on there positional abilities enough they will fall behind in DPS. They need to review the positional abilities on the other 3 melee DPS and take a look at reducing them.
    yeah looks like only gekko has a position req
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    Grimmjow Jaegerjaques
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    yeah looks like only gekko has a position req
    Kasha still has the positional.
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    Character
    Solala Sola
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    After trying numerous melee classes, I have come to the conclusion that I don't like positional attacks and by proxy the classes with them.
    I know for some people it adds some spice but it feels like such a pointless song and dance to me.

    And as someone that mains BLM I can tell you that the "problem" of just standing in one place and going through your attacks without having to move doesn't exist anymore.
    Modern bosses have so many things to dodge and so many different attack patterns that you're gonna be moving all the time anyway.
    Maybe not as much as positionals would make you, but with that added requirement for maximum damage on top of dodging stuff it just seems over the top to me.
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    Character
    Sef Makaro
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    This one isn't a problem with the system though; it's a problem with the newbie tank. The fix is to correct the tank; if that doesn't work, replace the tank.
    While true, it is a constant issue when running roulettes. We can’t fix them all. Many don’t care or just find it funny.
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