Opinions on Positionals

**Osteichthyes** · 04-16-2019 06:28 PM

Curious to see what thoughts of positionals are going into the next expansion. This last raid tier was extremely bad for positionals, often forcing hitting the targets from the front, yet, mechanically the fights are a lot more fun than any of the previous tiers (imo).

So the question I am asking. Do you enjoy positionals and why?

**Kalise** · 04-16-2019 07:00 PM

I think positionals are fun, they give an otherwise bland rotation something extra to pay attention to.

My qualm with them tends to stem from when they're overused or such a significant part of your damage output.

I.e. Monk, where literally every skill is positional and is a massive portion of your potency (40 potency... But for skills like Dragon Kick and Snap Punch that's 40% or 30% more damage from that GCD)

Also, I'm not even a NIN main but I've been triggered so hard by having my Trick Attack fail because the exact second I use the skill the boss instantly turns to throw out a skill and fudges the positional and makes the vulnerability miss >.>

**Seraphor** · 04-16-2019 08:13 PM

Positionals can be fun, but they shouldn't be required for 'casual' play. The way DRG and MNK do it is ideal if you ask me, although maybe a little too much back and forth for MNK, just flat out potency bonuses.
NIN comes in next, it's not too difficult to line up at the rear for a Trick Attack every now and then. SAM however irritates me, missing out on Kenki is really annoying.

I'd also like clarification, and perhaps adjustment to what actually constitutes rear and flank.
As I understand it, the 90 degree segment taken out of the back is the rear, the flanks are the tiny 45 degree slivers between that and the 180 line that makes up the front.
I’d like it if the flanks were extended an additional 45 degrees to the front so that you have a 90 degree segment just like the rear, and then have this displayed on the ground marker, perhaps the line for this segment is thinner than the front.

**Jonnycbad** · 04-17-2019 02:30 AM

I'd also like clarification, and perhaps adjustment to what actually constitutes rear and flank.
As I understand it, the 90 degree segment taken out of the back is the rear, the flanks are the tiny 45 degree slivers between that and the 180 line that makes up the front.
I’d like it if the flanks were extended an additional 45 degrees to the front so that you have a 90 degree segment just like the rear, and then have this displayed on the ground marker, perhaps the line for this segment is thinner than the front.

**Gula** · 04-17-2019 02:35 AM

Since I generally prefer Melee, it gives me something to think about- but not to much. Which is nice. When I tank, it's often irritating to not have the boss face me and I don't know my first run if it's supposed to ignore me at that moment. I'd like for them to keep them, but slow down on the boss just ignoring you for an arbitrary hit or target to someone else.

**Kabooa** · 04-17-2019 02:58 AM

Would like some expansion for the Ranged classes, though instead of direction, have it be distance.

**Brightamethyst** · 04-17-2019 05:16 AM

While I don't think they need to be removed entirely, I'd like to see positionals downplayed. Keep it on the finishers (Chaos Thrust, Snap Punch, etc) but remove them from the rest (Wheeling Thrust, True Strike, etc.) Right now there's enough movement on the part of both players and bosses that even with the lower CD on True North you still can't always hit positionals reliably. Missing a big chunk of damage because of things you can't control isn't fun or challenge, it's just frustration.

I'd also like to see positional disabled while solo. It's nearly impossible to hit most positional while solo. Give the open world the Deep Dungeon/Eureka treatment and act like positional hit every time.