Only 5 new skills per new job?!?!

[Tezz_Xivectro]

i apologize, i was unaware that the info has been out that long haha but how is bard supposed to be a defining job with only 5 party buffs, saying that all 5 are buffs i mean

It's defining in the sense that we obtain these unique abilities while limiting us to only certain abilities. The foundation of being an Archer is still there, Bard just enhances it. AF gear will also enhance it even further.

So the difference is the abilities, armor & base parameter shift.

[Murugan]

i apologize, i was unaware that the info has been out that long haha but how is bard supposed to be a defining job with only 5 party buffs, saying that all 5 are buffs i mean

Because that is what defines a bard?

>.>

[weeble]

well i kind of figure it wouldn't be that far from the same moves/spells wise. it's not like pld wasn't kinda able to be put together with gladiator and some other moves. only thing is it had way more then needed from other classes. didn't expect it to be too much more different just less options and more in line with a real pld not a jack of all trades gld/pld. besides i'm sure we will get new moves and stuff after 2.0 and we start seeing cap raises.

[Teknoman]

Armor with this patch, 1.22 for weapons.

Isnt the AF weapon only 1.22, while normal job specific weapons are introduced in 1.21? Wouldnt make sense to have a bard not be able to at least get some standard bowharps.

[Tonkra]

To me, this seems very disappointing, kind of like its the same exact job but with 5 new flashy things... how does anyone else feel about this?

well do you want to switch through 3-5 skill bars again like we had patches before? so its better that we have "only" 5 new skills per job... which are ausum and not THAT much.

but i understand, that have been my first impressions too. but wait and you'll see. more doesnt mean better.


and there are even more levels to come, when SE is going to raise the lv cap. so im happy with it.. that we have 5 new skills for now... or do you want like i said to switch between 7 skill bars while fighting? would be a mess.

i apologize, i was unaware that the info has been out that long haha but how is bard supposed to be a defining job with only 5 party buffs, saying that all 5 are buffs i mean

Havent you seen the trailer about the job skills (one skill is shown for each job)?

Job Classes - Skills Trailer Youtube

and well, one skill from the bard that is shown within the trailer is an "active" combat skill. i think about 3 will be songs (mp refresh/hp regen/more defense) and the rest 2 skills will be active skills.

but there has been a list already with the job skills.

[Drazzan]

I'd also like to point out that from the traditional classes;

30 -> 50; 5 Additional Abilities; 5 Additional Traits.

Not sure why this seems to be a surprise? I'm pretty sure the 5 new skills doesn't include traits? If it does, I'm still not disappointed as I think the jobs themselves will have unique ways of playing. Be it through management or just general usage.

[Zenaku]

5 good abilities is better than 30 that are crap.

AGREE 100000000000%

[KumaAkuma]

Hmm so if I understand it correctly: It's not just that you get only 5 cross abilities, but you can only get them from two specific classes. So for example that only classes the would be able to use Raise (or Cure) would be Paladin, White Mage and Bard. The only classes that can use Invigorate are Dragoon and Monk etc.

This is really disturbing. For example for dungeons/endgame: Why would we want to bring a Dragoon or Monk or Marauder as damage dealers if the can't even offer the slightest support to the group. Everyone would bring Bards as damage dealers just for that reason, besides the fact that everyone is already bringing Archers now because of the easy damage they do and minor damage they take.

[HokSeven]

This is really disturbing. For example for dungeons/endgame: Why would we want to bring a Dragoon or Monk or Marauder as damage dealers if the can't even offer the slightest support to the group. Everyone would bring Bards as damage dealers just for that reason, besides the fact that everyone is already bringing Archers now because of the easy damage they do and minor damage they take.

This is what I thought of as well. They just further enhanced the Bard while shafting every other DD Job (not class). Does the Monk or dragoon have a far superior attacks? I'd like to think so, but I don't see it. Jump? really? For the monk sap does sound intriguing, but we have to see it in action and how effective it really is.

Then again, you can go as monk, find that it sucks, change back to PGL.... problem solved

[Umo]

I'm pretty sure the 5 new skills doesn't include traits? If it does, I'm still not disappointed as I think the jobs themselves will have unique ways of playing. Be it through management or just general usage.

Check it out by yourself: Class Reforms & Actions Lists.