I'd like to see 5-man dungeons, with a slight caveat...

[ErryK]

LET'S MAKE A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM FOR RUNNING NEW DUNGEONS. THIS WON'T TAKE A TON OF TIME, MANPOWER OR RESOURCES TO MAKE, NO SIRE! Seriously I sometimes want OPs to really consider what they suggest and instead of thinking "I think this would be neat" how about they think "can the devs do this within the scope of their content cycles?"

This is you right now. Nobody is telling them to rebuild the wheel, it's just a request and it's up to the devs to entertain it or not (See: male bunny outfit), not you, so I'm not understanding why you feel it comes down to you to police requests. Also, yeah I totally said it won't take a ton of time. It's not unreasonable to request or suggest ideas. What is unreasonable is to expect them to come to fruition regardless of the state of whatever factors that go into it, which you seem to have assumed since you're insinuating we're demanding the content.

They made an Instance Duty, different then a dungeon,

They're both... instances? I don't know what's hard to comprehend here.

[347SPECTRE]

I feel some people didn't read the OP and just saw "add a fifth member to dungeons"
OP's idea is actually pretty interesting.

[Acesfool]

Not a horrible idea IMO. But I agree with others that it's probably too much of a change to the system. But how about an occasional boss that has to be tanked by a ranged job, or dungeons with a timer and if you beat the timer it opens a chamber with an extra boss?

[Lumadurin]

If we ever got 5-man content it'd ALWAYS have to be 1:1:3 for the Tank:HealerPS ratio.
The queues for DPS would be absurd otherwise.

[JBee]

It would be nice for a tank swap tutorial kind of thing, since the majority of story content doesn't even use the 2nd tank in trials for much

Would be a great addition to the game, I think, to add a new layer to the Hall of the Novice - Hall of the Intermediate.

Add simple demos of game mechs.

- Stack markers
- AOE Markers
- Line Markers
- Tank Swaps
- Burst Healing a group (like Doom in Monastary)
- Maintaining DPS while doing other mechanics

I know tank swaps in particular can be interesting. When Seiryu EX came out worked on clearing as a war. Had another tank in the group bark at me about how it was just like byakko ex, do it like byakko ex -- but not cleared that, so had no idea what they were talking about. Was the first time I had tanked content that required a tank swap that the group wasn't overgeared for and could thus just ignore it.

Not everyone needs the brush up on these things, but would be nice to have something people could reference after taking a long break or when struggling with new mechs when they get to them the first time.

[Skivvy]

If we ever got 5-man content it'd ALWAYS have to be 1:1:3 for the Tank:HealerPS ratio.
The queues for DPS would be absurd otherwise.

Ayeeee. I'm pretty sure the DPS would revolt if it went 2 tanks or 2 healers.


If they aren't wanting to create an actual support job (which I doubt they will), I do wonder how things could be tweaked to add a 3rd DPS. I imagine that could only help the DPS queues. I also dream of the day when my main focus as a WHM is healing and keeping a party functioning vs. tossing rocks all day long.

[Vanitas]

I would perfer more 8 man dungeons honestly.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Ayeeee. I'm pretty sure the DPS would revolt if it went 2 tanks or 2 healers.


If they aren't wanting to create an actual support job (which I doubt they will), I do wonder how things could be tweaked to add a 3rd DPS. I imagine that could only help the DPS queues. I also dream of the day when my main focus as a WHM is healing and keeping a party functioning vs. tossing rocks all day long.

If my experience with other games is any indication, it wouldn't help much. It would balance back out as the tanks playing tank for faster queues switch to dps. The ratios would stay the same.

[deadman1204]

Umm... so a 8 man with less dps?

Why not just run that from the party finder?

[Beki_Bayaqad]

Would be a great addition to the game, I think, to add a new layer to the Hall of the Novice - Hall of the Intermediate.

Add simple demos of game mechs.

- Stack markers
- AOE Markers
- Line Markers
- Tank Swaps
- Burst Healing a group (like Doom in Monastary)
- Maintaining DPS while doing other mechanics

I know tank swaps in particular can be interesting. When Seiryu EX came out worked on clearing as a war. Had another tank in the group bark at me about how it was just like byakko ex, do it like byakko ex -- but not cleared that, so had no idea what they were talking about. Was the first time I had tanked content that required a tank swap that the group wasn't overgeared for and could thus just ignore it.

Not everyone needs the brush up on these things, but would be nice to have something people could reference after taking a long break or when struggling with new mechs when they get to them the first time.

This, I would 200% support thus.