I'd like to see 5-man dungeons, with a slight caveat...

[Rollout]

Depending the dungeon, it would have different roles available.

For example, a 5-man dungeon where there are two tanks, featuring bosses that require tank swaps.

A 5-man dungeon with two healers, feature mechanics that specifically targets healers.

Just some extra dungeons to maybe help teach players some mechanics that they don't normally experience in normal dungeons.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

Depending the dungeon, it would have different roles available.

For example, a 5-man dungeon where there are two tanks, featuring bosses that require tank swaps.

A 5-man dungeon with two healers, feature mechanics that specifically targets healers.

Just some extra dungeons to maybe help teach players some mechanics that they don't normally experience in normal dungeons.

I don't know why people keep asking for this but adding a fifth role would require a complete redesign of the dungeon duty system.

[ErryK]

I don't know why people keep asking for this but adding a fifth role would require a complete redesign of the dungeon duty system.

They never asked for a different role though, it just means they'd have to build content that works around 5-man vs. 4-man. Probably more impossible because of spaghetti code rather than outright impossible.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

They never asked for a different role though, it just means they'd have to build content that works around 5-man vs. 4-man.

It would still require a complete redesign of the dungeons, both for the added role to be added to the mechanics of the party finder and to rebalance ALL the dungeons for five men over four.

[Rollout]

It would still require a complete redesign of the dungeons, both for the added role to be added to the mechanics of the party finder and to rebalance ALL the dungeons for five men over four.

I'm not saying make ALL dungeons 5-man. I'm saying make SOME 5-man dungeons, to teach players some mechanics they wouldn't normally see in 4-man and easy 8-man content.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

I'm not saying make ALL dungeons 5-man. I'm saying make SOME 5-man dungeons, to teach players some mechanics they wouldn't normally see in 4-man and easy 8-man content.

The structure of dungeons are 4, 8 ot 24 man, which is easy to make. having them develop a whole new dungeon for a different number of roles would be even more work on top of the standard dungeon system.

If you want people to learn mechanics, then go do Normal runs of content, they normally have simpler versions of mechanics that their hard/savage counterparts use (except for exdeath, kefka and Omega naturally. those require on site practice. )

[Burningskull]

They never asked for a different role though, it just means they'd have to build content that works around 5-man vs. 4-man. Probably more impossible because of spaghetti code rather than outright impossible.

Having to wait on 2 tanks or 2 healers for a dungeon would also make the queue times increase by a rather large amount.

[ErryK]

Having to wait on 2 tanks or 2 healers for a dungeon would also make the queue times increase by a rather large amount.

It would still require a complete redesign of the dungeons, both for the added role to be added to the mechanics of the party finder and to rebalance ALL the dungeons for five men over four.

OP never implied current content would require a change, only that new content built around 5-man would be created, and to be honest, if we can get content like that it'd be interesting. As for queues, if the content has desirability and replay-ability, the queues shouldn't be an issue...

no asking for things isn't bad. but asking for something ureasonable

This is unreasonable? Asking for new content is unreasonable? Okay...

[Beki_Bayaqad]

This is unreasonable? Asking for new content is unreasonable? Okay...

LET'S MAKE A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM FOR RUNNING NEW DUNGEONS. THIS WON'T TAKE A TON OF TIME, MANPOWER OR RESOURCES TO MAKE, NO SIRE! Seriously I sometimes want OPs to really consider what they suggest and instead of thinking "I think this would be neat" how about they think "can the devs do this within the scope of their content cycles?"

[Skivvy]

I don't know why people keep asking for this but adding a fifth role would require a complete redesign of the dungeon duty system.

A 5th party member could spice things up. A support role job could also add a lot to the game. Yes, this would be a major rework, but there's no harm in sharing ideas like this.