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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Motoko Kusanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    To the OP, as an player since the Bêta, if you want to do the last raid, to get your drop, most of time you need to specificaly tag for the raid you want. Don't expect to go in the raid you want with the roulette. That's not designed for. On the opposite, it is made to help new players and allow players to run old contents. Have you never been obliged to run ten or more WoD to get your weekly drop? I did.
    Easy? RNG can be a total nightmare.
    oh yeah. i totally get where you are coming from, and have personally been playing since beta phase 3. but keep in mind, newer alliance raids drop a token. normally it is pretty common for at least one of those 3 alliance raids to appear in the roulette, and that is on a daily basis. if you can manage to get all 3 throughout the week doing something you would normally do anyhow... well, that is just less to do at the end of the week. or just one more thing one would have redundantly done earlier in the week. as far as grinding for a specific piece of gear, obviously you wouldn't use roulette for that. and if you wait too late you might have to settle for something else not as interesting.

    either way, i still feel there is plenty reason to try and prevent people from manipulating roulette results. and also, on the point of roulette benefiting new players to clear content for their first time. yeah, this is true. it is the primary reason for roulette. and the rewards are to keep players coming and therefore keeping even the oldest content relatively relevant. with that said, those who manipulate the roulette are also taking away from those who are queuing for something higher level trying to get a clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
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    Honestly, I don't get why people would unlock the high tiers raids if it is to try to avoid it. My idea of this is it is player who run a secondary job (or alt) and doesn't want or/and CAN'T run the current high tiers with his secondary (lack of experience, bad stuff or so, maybe they need, only 1ilvl to reach the current high tiers).

    You think you know what they are doing but it is only what you feel they do. You are not with them, in the same room.
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    Last edited by Eldevern; 04-13-2019 at 09:25 PM.

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    There is no maybe it is or it isn't. And even going into content in all lv1 glams (which isn't possible for some instances) is not on what you've brought up OP.

    "...if the end result was that another person was hurt or obstructed."

    Show me where they hurt you. The only obstruction you'd have is a DPS check and the lv70's synced down for lower leveled Alliance Raids blow that out the water.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    it doesn't matter... the behavior is covered by the rules. either way, what these players are doing is disruptive of the progress towards what is potentially 23 other players. even if it isn't common for players to abuse the Alliance Raid Roulette in such a manner, when it does occur it has an impact on many players.

    regardless, it is abusive and it should be stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    it doesn't matter... the behavior is covered by the rules. either way, what these players are doing is disruptive of the progress towards what is potentially 23 other players. even if it isn't common for players to abuse the Alliance Raid Roulette in such a manner, when it does occur it has an impact on many players.

    regardless, it is abusive and it should be stopped.
    It's not, but good luck with your failed crusade.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramina View Post
    It's not, but good luck with your failed crusade.
    it IS covered by the rules... if not, then why would the player i reported get issued a warning? i reported someone a couple days ago, with video linked to. they responded to my report and said the player was issued a warning. should i happen catch this behavior again to make another report and the player would punished. if it wasn't against the rules, then it wouldn't be punishable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    it IS covered by the rules... if not, then why would the player i reported get issued a warning? i reported someone a couple days ago, with video linked to. they responded to my report and said the player was issued a warning. should i happen catch this behavior again to make another report and the player would punished. if it wasn't against the rules, then it wouldn't be punishable.
    GMs specifically dont tell you about any actions taken. dunno why you're bothering to lie about something so petty.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    1.) it is indeed against the rules.
    2.) i have not lied in any of my comments. they specifically told me a warning issued, and any further offenses will be punished.

    3.) simply put, there's no reason why we shouldn't try to prevent this behavior. regardless of what people are thinking, calling me a liar or saying it isn't against the rules. the behavior should indeed be prevented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    it IS covered by the rules... if not, then why would the player i reported get issued a warning? i reported someone a couple days ago, with video linked to. they responded to my report and said the player was issued a warning. should i happen catch this behavior again to make another report and the player would punished. if it wasn't against the rules, then it wouldn't be punishable.
    GM's are under a strict policy of never sharing the punishment or letting you know that corrective action was taken against the offender. Why you lying, gurl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    GM's are under a strict policy of never sharing the punishment or letting you know that corrective action was taken against the offender. Why you lying, gurl.
    Sometimes GM's can screw up and tell you something they aren't supposed to. It happened to me in World of Warcraft. It may have happened here too for all we know. Just because they aren't supposed to do or say something doesn't mean they won't by accident, they are, afterall, human.
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