Why Does A Fierce Race Of Female Warriors...

[Bright-Flower]

Honestly the outfit they have could have been their hempen set. It feels odd to me that the Rava description makes it sound like they're stealthy hunters that can camouflage in the jungle...but they do not look like they blend into the jungle at all. Even a little.

I'm sure the npcs won't be wearing that outfit though, just as you don't tend to see any of the other races wearing starting gear for the most part.

[Skivvy]

Honestly the outfit they have could have been their hempen set. It feels odd to me that the Rava description makes it sound like they're stealthy hunters that can camouflage in the jungle...but they do not look like they blend into the jungle at all. Even a little.

I'm sure the npcs won't be wearing that outfit though, just as you don't tend to see any of the other races wearing starting gear for the most part.

Not that we have a huge sample size to pull from when it comes to new races, but when the Au Ra preview came out they were wearing their racial sets. My guess is this will be the same. X:

As far as the lore goes, honestly they don't look like hunters at all to me. They look a wee bit too pampered for that. I don't tend to read up on lore though, so that bit doesn't really bother me personally.

[Fourbestintoner]

I'm personally very excited about the Viera as they are, and I'm also happy that we got the standard Fran garb for their racial gear. :X

Fran hides too much skin and could have been all races.
Their starting gear should have been-



Similar but not literally the same as Fran.

[Ceridwenae]

Let me rephrase my statement: just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it a problem or that it's wrong.

No, it still makes it a problem, for me or others of a similar mindset. It's just not one for you, or people of a similar mindset to you. It's very possible for it to be both.

Going by what was said, they wanted to try and give two new races to make more people happy, they just didn't have enough resources to fully impliment both of them so they compromised. Now that we have both races, even with their limitations, we can expect to get the other genders in the fututre. Personnally I think it was a good idea because now we have more choices.

We all have choices, that is true. My choice, I suppose, is to not engage with that new stuff on a creative level as it currently stands (as in not making new characters of those races or using a fantasia to change any of my existing characters, nor having them as retainers or in my squadron if they're available for those), and I'm happy to let SE know about it in posts such as this as well as my actions in game, and as long as I stay polite, I've every right to do so.
Also, if they don't have full resources to implement both races, isn't it really just half measures? Imagine full resources on both races meaning that what we're getting and what we could get could be even better later on, if enough time was devoted to it. They didn't have to give them to us at this point - although I understand why they did. I don't think it's the smartest move, but perhaps they were under pressure to provide something over nothing by upper and darker echelons. If it was me in charge (I pity the fool!), I would've just gone with "when it's ready; this is (sp)ART(a)!" and have full justice done to both races so as to not let fans down. So I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that outcome.

That said, I'm actually in agreement with your expectation towards the other genders coming in the future. I'm also wanting that extra time to include working further on the models so that buns are able to wear hats. Here's hoping it eventually comes good for everyone!

Thank you

You're welcome! Have a great weekend.

[Skivvy]

Fran hides too much skin and could have been all races.
Their starting gear should have been-



Similar but not literally the same as Fran.

We still have the hempen set to look forward to. I don't know if they were wanting to copy more outfits from XII, but they do have a variety that could be tweaked to work for that use.

[Joven]

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Problematic is pretty self explanatory: it's something that someone finds as a problem i.e. a roach infestation is problematic. I can't walk down the street wearing nothing but a towel and a smile. Why? Because enough people got together and decided that something like that was "indecent" so they made it illegal. If enough people find you walking around dressed as a smurf to be inappropriate they'll do something about it. As for private businesses and residents: they are owned by an individual so that individual gets to decide what the dress code is based on what they consider appropriate. Places like grocery stores, hospitals, schools, etc are considered "public spaces" which means they're akin to being outside even though they are privately owned businesses. They still have a "dress code", but they try to keep it to something simple like "shirt and shoes required" so as to not encroach on our ability to wear pretty much whatever. They're still free to change it to suit the situation, like how you can't wear shorts in a courthouse because even though it's considered a public space they want to portray at least some semblance of professionalism. I'll give an example of someone finding something someone else was wearing in a public space to be a problem and forcing them to change it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8plCd0c7gV0. (NSFW language). I know the video is fairly old, but it still applies.

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Both of these prove my point. The fact that they received so much of a negative reaction to the lack of male Viera, despite the fact that they even offered Viera to begin with due to requests, is indicative of how little control they really have over what they release if the public doesn't approve. If the devs could do whatever they wanted then they wouldn't really care about appeasing the majority and just release whatever they felt like whenever they felt like it and to the 7 Hells with the complaints. That's what I meant with the statement "you're not getting male Viera, deal with it". They would never say that, but even if they had no intention of releasing male Viera in the future they'd have no choice now but to release them because of the public outrage. They have to weigh their options about what they add too. Glamour restrictions lifted, more inventory and a fourth healer may be what a majority of people want, but if they were to focus on fulfilling those objectives then another majority of people would complain about them taking time and resources away from creating raids and adding more areas. It's a no win situation.

[Tanker4444]

...look like strippers? Come on, S.E.

I was looking forward to playing a Viera for something different but that starting outfit is too much for me to overlook. They look like they are straight out of Forsaken World.

I thought you were better than that, Square Enix. Count me as disappointed.

You forgot to add the /s at the end OP.

That or you have zero idea of what Viera are, what they look like, and how they dress. If you didnt know, now you do! Congrats!

if that bothers you I ask this, why is it that it took until Viera to get stripper looks into the game? There´s plenty of fully covered armors already, but a dearth of skimpy options. Now THAT is disappointing.

[Melichoir]

Because warriors aren't known for wearing gear that doesn't protect anything. Well, except for Celts, and they didn't fare too well against the Romans."

Im not exactly whipping out my wallet over female Viera honestly. yeah, Not a fan of the lingerie style they got going. Thats my feeling on it, buuuuuuuuut that being said, Im not considering how 'realistic' it is as armor. Virtually every single armor except some of the low level ones are extremely impractical for combat. It's a fantasy game where we literally have guns and no one is considering that a gun will pierce most historical plate mail (Hell, crossbows were excellent at that too), or people dont get severe burns or frost bite from BLM spells. Where Paladin armor has your head virtually exposed and monks fighting with their fists would be pretty much useless in most battle situations. If we were being REALLY REALISTIC, most armies would be comprised of machinists cause guns are way better than virtually almost all melee weapons.

Always taken the view everyone's skin is made of stone or something or that everyone has a magic overcoat that mitigates tons of damage so you dont need the most practical armor to be protected. So even if it's stripper gear, if theyre soldiers, theyre soldiers cause fantasy.


For CLARITY though: I will point out that the viera designs are extremely fan service ish. This isnt 'wilderness hunter' armor in any way, even among fantasy things. It really is very lingerie-esque. Which is fine (not my taste, but fine!). It just doesnt work with the setting. Its teh type of armor and dress Id see if they were in Uldah or Limsa maybe, not in wild forest environments. It just doesnt...fit. Im not sure how the FFXII explained this, but yeah.

[ShinShimon]

There are several other fierce warrior races you can play, and none of them start out in battle armor.
Why would you expect civilian clothing to offer protection? Even when people go hunting, they don't wear armor.

[Bright-Flower]

Not that we have a huge sample size to pull from when it comes to new races, but when the Au Ra preview came out they were wearing their racial sets. My guess is this will be the same. X:

As far as the lore goes, honestly they don't look like hunters at all to me. They look a wee bit too pampered for that. I don't tend to read up on lore though, so that bit doesn't really bother me personally.

Yeah it's kind of like female Xaela all over again.

They're taller than au ra women, but they don't look like hunters. They look like supermodels. The lingerie esque racial armor doesn't help that image. If that set was their hempen set I wouldn't bat an eye at it, but the viera don't look...well, fierce. Or intimidating. At least not that we've seen so far.