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  1. #11
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    AvenoMatt's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Avnus Vabruyt
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    I've been playing since patch 3.2 and this has been a common practice in Diabolos (not so much atm, hunting is kinda dead). In all honesty it just depends on who is on. The norm is that either someone will scout the hunts before hand and once they are all found the train will start or a train starts and everyone starts scouting going from one zone to the next. They usually wait a good 2-3mins before pulling the first hunt so ppl can come, sometimes longer depending if ppl are still coming. Every hunt is shouted in order and after every kill so the train always knows where to go next. The train then waits a usual 1-2mins at this point as anyone who actually cared to join the train has already joined. If someone still needs a party or a party is too small a few nice ppl will actual leave their party to form a new party or join the undersized party so all get full credit. This is all for 4.0 hunts, 2.0 and 3.0 hunts specifically
    A Ranks aren't as friendly since not may care to do them so usually once called ppl don't wait as long before killing since they it is expected that no many will actually show. S Ranks no matter what level always pull in a crowd but for 2.0 the general idea is first come first serve since they die so fast so landing a hit before it dies can be competitive.

    There are snipers and earlier pullers on diabolos but they usually aren't that big of an issue. My biggest advice would be to try and join a few hunt LS so you always know what hunts are up and make a macro hunt shout for all your LSs and the world so more ppl know what hunts are currently being targeted. Let your party know to shout for you that they have someone otw. If Hyperion has enough etiquette then they should be willing to wait till everyone is there. Also if you haven't lower your graphic settings and turn visual effects offs at least for non party members. Your response time should improve.
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  2. #12
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    Sukamachi's Avatar
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    Sukamachi Chan
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 60
    They need to add something where can block other players not in your party so they don't show up. What good is being at hunt when there invisible because there's like 300 players all in one small space that causes huge lag and fps to drop to single digits.
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  3. #13
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
    World
    Cuchulainn
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Think they need to fix there servers so ones don't get disconnected and hunts don't turn invisible on you. This happens to me a lot in hunts where it is about dead then boom your disconnected and then get nothing for helping kill the hunt. They need to think of some kind fix for when there is so many in one area that causes huge lag and disconnects. Hunt train is worst idea ever. Who ever thought having hundreds all together in one small area was good idea is sure wrong.
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  4. #14
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    RMA209's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Melody Jaab
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    Just remember that your also doing the same thing you have a issue about, which is killing a A rank solo SOMEONE ELSE might be wanting for seals as well. Your creating the same problem on your own that your trying to solve!

    Lastly, how can a entire server be blamed for your computer issues? There is nothing we can do about the slow load times. That unfortunately is something that will have to be resolved on your end. You can't expect a entire server full of people to cater to you only. Eureka is different since the instance scales NM differently, up to the point NMs can be nothing but HP sponges.
    Really? I find one I shout and LS. Also some times I even use the novice network saying that its lv 70. Then someone tells me Im inpatient or rude or wrong for not just joining the train. For your information I was booted from my second hunt LS when I told em I don't want extra stuff around the game. No extra apps or sites to report or track hunts. Its a difference of opinion and folks look down on me for it. I know I'm not alone. Others share my view.

    As to your thing about my pc. I have tried to play on my new pc, old pc, and original model ps4. When I try I just can't keep up. If they did not instant pull it would not be so bad. When I had the nerve to ask about that I was told they use the same route each day and I should know it.

    Also I imagine a person out in the field with a quiet linkshell, like mine, might not get the hunt info if they did want in. What about people playing other parts of the game? If they don't own hunt any more then anyone else why do we have to play it on there terms? At least most of the time because there a mob. Few people can beat a mob. There not wrong but many don't act nice to people who don't join em.
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    Last edited by RMA209; 04-19-2019 at 12:56 AM. Reason: more to say

  5. #15
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Zelda
    World
    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by RMA209 View Post
    For your information I was booted from my second hunt LS when I told em I don't want extra stuff around the game. No extra apps or sites to report or track hunts.
    Typically a hunt LS will use that extra stuff so by going into that linkshell and demanding they stop is kind of your own downfall. I would say start your own linkshell and go from there If you feel others share your view - get those others.

    As far as world visitation goes there's going to be some culture shock all around. Levi and Ultros use PF and don't invite via /sh. Hyperion, Lamia and Behemoth seem to be Free for all. So if you don't want to join the train on Hyperion just go out and /sh and kill.

    There is nothing really called early pulls in this game - so if someone gives you a hard time you can report them. but -- at the same time if you grief them back, and mock the train then your probably going to find yourself in hot water too.

    So get to work on your own ls and what not then getting on the others for their decisions on how to play the game is my advice to you.
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  6. #16
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    Dalvy's Avatar
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
    World
    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    On Goblin, it was a common practice to call it out, throw up PFs and wait 5 minutes for people to get there.

    Post patch, the hunt culture cultivated by local players was destroyed almost overnight by people from other servers, who kill A ranks before our local hunt trains can get to them. Nevermind the S ranks that get pulled and die before 2-3 minutes go by of first discovery.

    There is definitely a sense of anger because of the cross-server addition... Thanks for unnecessarily removing us from our original data center, SE
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  7. #17
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    Emily Summerstar
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    There are always A-Ranks walking about. Are they truly hunted only once per day?

    I recently decided to shout the location of an A-Rank in Il-Mheg. A few people showed up and we asked around in our linkshells if anyone else would like to participate. As we waited, people started to drop off and leave without saying anything. I figured that they lost interest and just continued to do my daily hunts in the area. A few moments later, people started shouting at me to leave the A-Ranks alone and telling me that it's poachers like me that ruin the game experience and that every hunt linkshell was going to do something about it with me. I had no clue what they were talking about until I realized they meant the A-Rank.

    I had not done A-Ranks since Storm Blood and it was common then to shout out those A-Ranks when you saw them. It gave people during any time of play to participate. The monsters respawned quick enough that they could be hunted at all times of the day. I later learned from some of my friends that these days, it was frowned upon to do hunts outside of hunt trains. I've done at most 2 A-Ranks in the Shadowbringer zone and 1 in the new Endwalker zones. I find this to be such a shame because the hunt trains only happen during the hours of the day convenient to some of the player base. I've resigned this to be game content that I just won't have access to.
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  8. #18
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    A ranks are seldom killed often enough to warrant overprotective behavior like that.

    Such individuals are usually full of hot air anyways so if you want to hunt something just do it at your leisure and don't concern yourself with being witch hunted or anything like that.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EmilySummerstar View Post
    There are always A-Ranks walking about. Are they truly hunted only once per day?

    I recently decided to shout the location of an A-Rank in Il-Mheg. A few people showed up and we asked around in our linkshells if anyone else would like to participate. As we waited, people started to drop off and leave without saying anything. I figured that they lost interest and just continued to do my daily hunts in the area. A few moments later, people started shouting at me to leave the A-Ranks alone and telling me that it's poachers like me that ruin the game experience and that every hunt linkshell was going to do something about it with me. I had no clue what they were talking about until I realized they meant the A-Rank.

    I had not done A-Ranks since Storm Blood and it was common then to shout out those A-Ranks when you saw them. It gave people during any time of play to participate. The monsters respawned quick enough that they could be hunted at all times of the day. I later learned from some of my friends that these days, it was frowned upon to do hunts outside of hunt trains. I've done at most 2 A-Ranks in the Shadowbringer zone and 1 in the new Endwalker zones. I find this to be such a shame because the hunt trains only happen during the hours of the day convenient to some of the player base. I've resigned this to be game content that I just won't have access to.
    Free hunting is fine. No player has the right to stop you from killing a hunt if you want to. You are not a poacher. Report anyone calling you a poacher (or making other derogatory comments) for harassment.

    Trains are running infrequently enough right now that there's no reason for anyone to complain about free hunting. No one from Diabolos has relayed any trains to the data center hunt discord in the last 4 days (and the last couple before that were Endwalker only) so I can't tell if they haven't run one at all or if they're only relaying locally. It's not a big deal if a train only has 10 or 11 instead of all 12. Better that the hunts get killed as found (the way SE has intended it) than for them to be ignored expecting someone else to start a train just to have them despawn so no one benefits at all.

    You may want to consider organizing trains yourself. We don't have enough players willing to conduct to keep trains running as frequently as they can be. Most of the conductors in the community are friendly and happy to give tips/advice.

    One thing I will add is that if people did show up for the rank A you found then left, you were probably waiting too long to pull. No one is going to wait 10-15 minutes for a single rank A when most of a train could be run in the same amount of time. Once you have a couple of people present, go ahead and pull. Shadowbringers Rank As won't die so fast that others arriving late will miss out (unless they're arriving very late) and they can be solo'd by the right jobs.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-01-2022 at 07:06 PM.

  10. #20
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EmilySummerstar View Post
    There are always A-Ranks walking about. Are they truly hunted only once per day?

    I recently decided to shout the location of an A-Rank in Il-Mheg. A few people showed up and we asked around in our linkshells if anyone else would like to participate. As we waited, people started to drop off and leave without saying anything. I figured that they lost interest and just continued to do my daily hunts in the area. A few moments later, people started shouting at me to leave the A-Ranks alone and telling me that it's poachers like me that ruin the game experience and that every hunt linkshell was going to do something about it with me. I had no clue what they were talking about until I realized they meant the A-Rank.

    I had not done A-Ranks since Storm Blood and it was common then to shout out those A-Ranks when you saw them. It gave people during any time of play to participate. The monsters respawned quick enough that they could be hunted at all times of the day. I later learned from some of my friends that these days, it was frowned upon to do hunts outside of hunt trains. I've done at most 2 A-Ranks in the Shadowbringer zone and 1 in the new Endwalker zones. I find this to be such a shame because the hunt trains only happen during the hours of the day convenient to some of the player base. I've resigned this to be game content that I just won't have access to.
    I am curious as to why you pulled up a 3 year old thread to make the same complaint that has exiisted for as many years plus? Hunts are not perfect but if you are not a dungeon runner, they are all we have to gear up. I'd suggest modifying your playstyle to fit the masses.
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