Question?

[Kalise]

I quit around 2008ish, but ninja tanked in FFXI.

That's nice dear.

But here on the FFXIV forums, this point is irrelevant.

This person is complaining about "Tanks" having too many edged weapons, and cites Ninja, Red Mage and Samurai (In addition to the actual tanks PLD/DRK/WAR/GNB)

It's like me then responding with "Nuh uhh! My Monk in D&D campaigns was always a Tank and they ran around using their fists to punch things! (With some Kama to slice up zombies on the side, but that's because slashing bonuses)"

Sure, technically correct. But not particularly relevant to the discussion at hand

[Rollout]

I quit around 2008ish, but ninja tanked in FFXI.

Which was not what was intended of them. Players found a way to use them as tanks, but that doesn't mean they were supposed to be tanks.

[Phoenicia]

Which was not what was intended of them. Players found a way to use them as tanks, but that doesn't mean they were supposed to be tanks.

And SE kept nerfing NIN's ability to tank consistently over the patches and expansion until NIN became a back up thing.

[MagiusNecros]

I would love a nice meaty mace to smash fools with. Alas it is not meant to be.

[CelestaRosa]

their is a difference in martial arts - between a battle-axe and Double-mallet warhammer specially their fighting styles and techinques

Great-axes have more choping slicing motion on their swings appling power


Massive hammers are known for their ability to crush. completely smash kill someone inside out. demostration why these weapon so deadly

Hitting someone with two handed hammer in downward strike dead center of their forehead with all strength might can two two thinks

completely shatter their neck both head be thrusted into their chest. while splitting their shoulders and ripps leaving big. other is heavy swing baseball motion where you hit them cross side of their head send them decapitating them spine all all cross battle feild.

unfortunately we wont have those type of gore added too final fantasy 14 we have protect innocence of younger gamers so to speak

lets tone it down make cartoony like

you get yourself massive hammer. and hulk smash them in the chest with it send them flying like cannon ball shot out of a cannon. only have their head in dirty and ass up in the air. like hinderbrand and godbert

difference between ball-mace or morning star martials between them and long swords not that different just your kinda aim for rip cage and fore head. cause if mace stuck inside someones skull. is good mace indeed

[DRKoftheAzure]

Massive swords and axes that WAR and DRK have access to are generally supposed to be used as crushing weapons, given how long or wide or even both in rare cases with some slashing properties because of the blade being sharpened...

I'm just taking guess of that's weapons like that would have been used IRL in ye olde times...

Also in the God Eater games the Buster Blade has crushing properties as well as slashing properties, and then you have the Heavy Moon weapon(if Warrior and Dancer weapons had a baby) in God Eater 3 that has the same damage properties as the buster blade...

[Satarn]

Massive swords and axes that WAR and DRK have access to are generally supposed to be used as crushing weapons, given how long or wide or even both in rare cases with some slashing properties because of the blade being sharpened...
I'm just taking guess of that's weapons like that would have been used IRL in ye olde times...

Medieval bladed weapons not being sharp is a weirdly common misconception. Aside from this being contradicted by techniques shown in old fighting manuals, logically, why in the heck would anybody bother making blades if they were going to use them as blunt weapons?

Using their size as reasoning is pointless, as real live axes and great swords were nowhere near as big and wide, but this is a fantasy game so obviously everything will be exaggerated to look appealing. Weapons like these wouldn't be used for "crushing" in real life - they just wouldn't be used at all due to how unwieldy and slow they'd be.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Medieval bladed weapons not being sharp is a weirdly common misconception. Aside from this being contradicted by techniques shown in old fighting manuals, logically, why in the heck would anybody bother making blades if they were going to use them as blunt weapons?

Using their size as reasoning is pointless, as real live axes and great swords were nowhere near as big and wide, but this is a fantasy game so obviously everything will be exaggerated to look appealing. Weapons like these wouldn't be used for "crushing" in real life - they just wouldn't be used at all due to how unwieldy and slow they'd be.

Given that fact that their was no real way to get so ripped to the point where 1 person could actually use them no problem in medieval times, you are right... but with the introduction of steroids in modern day, and this is a fantasy game that has mecha as trash mobs and the occassional boss or 12, and Roegadyn look like they have been hitting the gym to the point where they might as well be living in said gym(maybe they took some steroids as well), and most armor would be tough to crack open without a piercing weapon like a polearm unless you got lucky and with a sword and got the vulnerable spot, because I am pretty sure that if Roegadyn were real, those swords and axes that are as big and wide as a normal sized person in ye olde times... well if you have heard have anime/manga called Berserk you would probably have an idea of what to expect...

[Kukajoo]

There are some non-sword glamors you can get right now, for a variety of classes including dark knight there's the blackbosom reaper scythe weapons (on the mogstation). Theres also the Aka Oni greatclub you can get from pvp. Those are the only two i know of however, i'm sure if you look around you might find some other options for the other tanks too.