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    What if we did away with healing duos...?

    I mean it. What if future content was solo healer? Similar to how all Alliance Raid parties are currently solo tank?

    I assembled some pros and cons. It's by no means a complete list... Just what I could come up with while at work. Interested in the thoughts of others.

    (Please help distract me and get me through my day.)

    Pros:
    - If you only have to worry about one healer, then you don't have to worry about "Healer Synergy" such as the Direct vs Shield healing that Yoshi's wants to break away from. (Would be great for AST in particular). And it could make it easier to balance the healers...

    - It would prioritize and reinforce the need for a healer to focus on healing, with DPS being a distant second. Encouraging tactical healing rather than "Lets just both spam oGCD's and AoE heals to brute force our way through this".

    - It would promote healer competency. No more half-assing it while the other one does all the work and no more having to pick up the slack for a lazy partner.

    - Give credit where it's due. Ever get to the end of a run and want to thank the healer that saved your skin but you don't know which one actually helped you? Not anymore.

    - People get another DPS. So they get more damage numbers, faster kills and faster queue times.


    Cons:
    - I can hear some of you already: "BUT RESURRECTION!" Absolutely. This would be the biggest obstacle. Two healers ensures that the party doesn't wipe because the one healer made a boo-boo. Ideally though, you'd want to delegate that "back-up reviver" status to a support class (hmm, if only FFXIV had a support role... or maybe give healers a "Reraise" ability?)

    - Pressure. It ups the pressure and responsibility on the role. It would turn a lot of people off...

    - Fewer party spots which could encourage one healer (SCH) to be preferred for everything if balancing is handled poorly. (Which, historically, is a yes).

    Looking forward to other's thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltvoyance View Post
    - It would promote healer competency. No more half-assing it while the other one does all the work and no more having to pick up the slack for a lazy partner.
    Sorry, but no. That will just result in more failures. And then that healer will just blame a DPS or something. More responsibility does not make people good, it just makes it more apparent who is bad.
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    I'd be all for it. 100% in.

    Would renew my interest in healing. Plus, it would potentially weed out all the horrible healers out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Plus, it would potentially weed out all the horrible healers out there.
    Yes cause we have such an drastic overflow or healers that we'd need smt like that xD

    While it would be nice smt, two healers still is saver, i dont wanna wipe cause the one heal messed up, lagged or smt....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes cause we have such an drastic overflow or healers that we'd need smt like that xD

    While it would be nice smt, two healers still is saver, i dont wanna wipe cause the one heal messed up, lagged or smt....
    There are a lot of terrible healers in this game. So, yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    There are a lot of terrible healers in this game. So, yeah.
    A bad player is a bad player regardless of role, you'd rather they swap over to tank and wipe you that way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordcruxis View Post
    A bad player is a bad player regardless of role, you'd rather they swap over to tank and wipe you that way?
    Yeah, cuz that's what I said. No point in conversing with someone that puts words in my mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I'd be all for it. 100% in.

    Would renew my interest in healing. Plus, it would potentially weed out all the horrible healers out there.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Plus, it would potentially weed out all the horrible healers out there.
    They're still going to be a horrible tank or dps, I can only imagine your uncalled for response indicates that you would be weeded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coltvoyance View Post
    I mean it. What if future content was solo healer? Similar to how all Alliance Raid parties are currently solo tank?
    Well this has been specifically addressed by the dev team. They don't like that, in this sort of a setup, a healer dying is the end of a pull/attempt. There are other cons as you note, but that's the one the dev team have said prevent them from adding more difficult content with solo healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Sorry, but no. That will just result in more failures. And then that healer will just blame a DPS or something. More responsibility does not make people good, it just makes it more apparent who is bad.
    Mhhh, I didn't say it would make them good. I said "promote" so, not solve, but encourage people to take the role seriously. Instead of using it to cheese their way through a trial or raid without pulling their weight by leaning on the other healer.
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