The mentor system sucks, and here's how I would fix it.

[linay]

There's literally no reason to have a mentor system, then... Like you can have a roulette that fills in any content without it being a "mentor roulette" and get rid of the idea of mentors and the novice network. I.E. what I said.

Well, as I stated above, there is still reason for the mentor system, even if it's just the bare passive benefits of bonus experience points.

As for the any-content roulette, the requirement to be a mentor (at least combat version) still means it is more likely for a mentor to be able to fill in all roles for the roulette and the roulette also tries to separate mentors into separate parties (not having an all-mentor party) unless a party in progress really needs them. So it's not just about the roulette, but also the people that participate in that roulette.

[cicatriz313]

Well, as I stated above, there is still reason for the mentor system, even if it's just the bare passive benefits of bonus experience points.

As for the any-content roulette, the requirement to be a mentor (at least combat version) still means it is more likely for a mentor to be able to fill in all roles for the roulette and the roulette also tries to separate mentors into separate parties (not having an all-mentor party) unless a party in progress really needs them. So it's not just about the roulette, but also the people that participate in that roulette.

Yeah, the roulette as it works now helps fill parties with mentors. The problem is that mentor as they are in game atm, is a pointless title that people get for reasons that don't coincide with helping newer players with anything. That's why it's better to just not have them, mentors literally join roulettes and leave if they get something not "worth their time" and from what I've seen, most novice networks are just used as a global chat for people who need someone to talk to.

[Doozer]

I don't think I've ever seen a mentor attempt to help anyone. They seem to regularly fail at the same mechanics everyone else does, and say absolutely nothing to help if there's a wipe. They just want their incentives and nothing more. If there wasn't something to gain from it, I'm sure the only people who would be mentors would be the ones with the desire to aid new players.

[Erendis]

If they made the crown a watering can

That would be neat! Maybe I would actually wear it then...

[Feidam]

Which is? So far as I can tell they are a person using their limited free time to enjoy a game they pay for. I expect that they won't break the rules and harass anyone..... and that's it.

Any further expectations are unrealistic.

There is a list of expectations that pops up when you become a mentor. People have every right to expect that mentors abide by those expectations set forth. If you don’t want to be bound by those expectations do not opt in to be a mentor.

[SenorPatty]

I agree with several points by the OP but mostly the main one where it's a system overseen by GMs. The talk about how this would take away from their time, that's pure speculation as we have no idea how GMs operate their daily, weekly, monthly schedules. If they want to make time and/or feel like they can, they will regardless of what we think it's going to take them away from.

[WaterShield]

There's literally no reason to have a mentor system, then... Like you can have a roulette that fills in any content without it being a "mentor roulette" and get rid of the idea of mentors and the novice network. I.E. what I said.

Ok... and who would want to do it? There is a reason I gave up being a mentor. I signed up to help new people a bit... not to be a walking encyclopedia of every class and all content to be abused so people can clear things they didn't feel the need to put effort into.

Currently people are incentivized by a shiny crown and mentor roulette rewards. For many people that is not enough to put up with pure suffering and poor treatment from other players for "failing to live up to their expectations"

[cicatriz313]

Ok... and who would want to do it? There is a reason I gave up being a mentor. I signed up to help people a bit... not to be a walking encyclopedia of every class and all content to be abused so people can clear things they didn't feel the need to put effort into.

Currently people are incentivized by a shiny crown and mentor roulette rewards. For many people that is not enough to put up with pure suffering and poor treatment from other for "failing to live up to their expectations"

The same people who want to do it now? The people who want Astrope. Like that's why anyone is doing mentor roulette in the first place. Not sure why you're strawmanning me saying that I'm asking for mentors to be anything, I literally said the system shouldn't be a thing because hardly anyone cares about it. The only people who want it to exist are people who want their crown pixels and a global chat.

[Feidam]

The same people who want to do it now? The people who want Astrope. Like that's why anyone is doing mentor roulette in the first place. Not sure why you're strawmanning me saying that I'm asking for mentors to be anything, I literally said the system shouldn't be a thing because hardly anyone cares about it. The only people who want it to exist are people who want their crown pixels and a global chat.

I wouldn’t generalize here. There are lots of folks that are mentors that are not just in it for the mount. The mount is a nice added bonus don’t get me wrong but I didn’t agree to be a mentor just so i could grind out one mount. I actually like helping people.

[Aramina]

I agree with several points by the OP but mostly the main one where it's a system overseen by GMs. The talk about how this would take away from their time, that's pure speculation as we have no idea how GMs operate their daily, weekly, monthly schedules. If they want to make time and/or feel like they can, they will regardless of what we think it's going to take them away from.

It can be speculation at the same time as common sense. Either they already have enough to do and that's why they are all employed or they have time to do frivolous things, such as the OP mentioned, and as such would have likely been canned already because of them not being necessary. More time in their work day is not going to somehow magically appear, and any time spent vetting people will, by necessity, take time away from something else they would have been doing.