Glamour Dresser and Glamour Plates

[Angelov-Mercy]

I don't wish to sound behind the times,but how do you set up glamour plates? I'm usually forced to find a hidden spot or retire to my Inn to change jobs and add my gear, if there is a way to preset gear so it added to my toon when I switch weapons/tools like Erza scarlet does, that would be great. Maybe a new glamour animation for each class for the switch?

I remember the first time I switched jobs, and wondered what happened in a panic. "Stop looking, I'm not like that!" lol

[ryouma17]

I don't wish to sound behind the times,but how do you set up glamour plates? I'm usually forced to find a hidden spot or retire to my Inn to change jobs and add my gear, if there is a way to preset gear so it added to my toon when I switch weapons/tools like Erza scarlet does, that would be great. Maybe a new glamour animation for each class for the switch?

I remember the first time I switched jobs, and wondered what happened in a panic. "Stop looking, I'm not like that!" lol

go to any inn and look for the glamour dresser


you can then store any item you want to use as a glamour in there but it costs a glamour prism to store an item, after you store the items you want you click "edit glamour plates" at the bottom of the glamour dresser window


you get 10 slots to mix and match any items you want, after that you open your character menu and located between the gear set list and recommended gear you'll find the glamour plates click it


doing so will allow you to apply any glamours you have set to your 10 plates to any class you want without having to use a glamour prism or doing it 1 item at a time however you can only apply plates in major cities or at your apartment/house/FC house

[Iscah]

I don't wish to sound behind the times,but how do you set up glamour plates? I'm usually forced to find a hidden spot or retire to my Inn to change jobs and add my gear, if there is a way to preset gear so it added to my toon when I switch weapons/tools like Erza scarlet does, that would be great. Maybe a new glamour animation for each class for the switch?

I remember the first time I switched jobs, and wondered what happened in a panic. "Stop looking, I'm not like that!" lol

Ah, that horror-moment when you first change jobs. D:

But it sounds like there are two different issues you're having.

For switching jobs, you never want to do that by manually changing weapons - you need to save gear sets, which are a sub-menu on the Character menu screen - the button is to the right of the Glamour Plates button that Ryouma has pointed out in the image above this post. Then it will equip you with the weapon and all the associated gear at once, so there are no more awkward moments in public (unless you sold/relocated/upgraded some of the equipment since you last updated the set).


Glamour plates are separate - they're for applying glamours to your currently equipped gear. (They won't do anything if you're not currently wearing gear!) You set them up at the inn room using the Glamour Dresser furniture item, then you can apply the plates from the Character menu anywhere in a large city or at the Gold Saucer. (You can also link them to gear sets so they're applied as you equip the set, but that's only useful if you have multiple jobs sharing gear, and only if you'll be switching while in a city.)

Plates are primarily useful for costumes that you'll want to apply to your gear often. You can create a plate for jobs you're currently leveling, and then repply the glamours each time you level up and upgrade your gear. Or multiple costumes for your favourite class, and then you can switch between them when you feel like it.

[Callinon]

Because the Armoire and FC chest don't hold as much information as the glamour dresser, and it's also much more unique to each player. Just think, a player has 200 pieces of varied glamour all dyed different compared to someone else. The armorie is pretty simple, any dyes or spirit bound status is removed for things you put in there and the FC chest is accessible by anyone (in the FC) so it's not so unique. You also cannot put untradable items in the FC chest, and Armoire stuff has a special flag.

Uh what?

There are major differences between data the armoire is storing and the data the glamour dresser is storing.

The armoire is storing only the item ID. And probably only as a boolean value (off or on) given the strict limits on armoire storage. The bizarre categories things are stored in lends weight to this type of design as well.

The dresser is more or less another inventory as far as item storage goes. It's stripping away things like spiritbond levels, condition, and variable stats. So we can call this a "limited" inventory for these purposes. When you put something in, its item ID is stored and (I think) so is the dye, but that's all. Then the plates take item ID and dye and apply glamour that way.

There's no reason you couldn't put a glamour dresser in a house. Just like there's no reason you can't have a retainer bell in there, or an FC chest (a structure that stores much more data than a dresser). SE didn't do it because they were paranoid about server loads from accessing multiple inventory systems in a variable environment. It probably would've been fine, but they opted not to until they were sure.

The glamour dresser system is VERY badly designed. Not even talking here about the number of plates or the restrictions on use. Just the overall design for the system is amateurish and looks like they rushed it out the door as quickly as they could instead of taking the time to do it right. The problem now is that if they want to improve it, what they really need to do is go back and fix that initial design and that's complicated now because now there's existing data they have to deal with.

[Angelov-Mercy]

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Thank you both. ^_^

[Kurando]

There are major differences between data the armoire is storing and the data the glamour dresser is storing.

I'm not denying there major differences, only that each type of storage functions quite differently but they do also have each have their own negatives.

The dresser is more or less another inventory as far as item storage goes. It's stripping away things like spiritbond levels, condition, and variable stats. So we can call this a "limited" inventory for these purposes. When you put something in, its item ID is stored and (I think) so is the dye, but that's all. Then the plates take item ID and dye and apply glamour that way.

Not sure that's entirely correct. You cannot place items in the dresser unless they have full condition (so they need to be repaired before going in), the dye at the time of storage stays, also variable stats stay as well so whatever they have going in will be the same if you take it out. Of course the stats on a piece of gear make no difference if it's being used for glamour, but they remain unaffected incase you intend to retrieve the piece. I think the name of the person who crafts a piece might stay as well although I'm not sure about that.

An FC chest doesn't store that much unique data to the dresser though. As mentioned, the dresser will hold varying amounts of usually untradable gear with differing dyes and stats. There likely would be more active dressers than FC chests in the game. The FC chest is essentially like a limited retainer, you still need to remove things to use them, as opposed to a dresser where you can dye and/or glamour stuff without even leaving the menu.

SE didn't do it because they were paranoid about server loads from accessing multiple inventory systems in a variable environment. It probably would've been fine, but they opted not to until they were sure.

Pretty much touches on what I mentioned a few posts ago of housing not being seen as a stable environment for the dresser. Whether it's true or not though, that's their current reasoning behind it.

[Colino]

At one of the Fests they asked which we would want more, and relied on the whole "whichever gets the loudest applause" method between more plates, more storage or more places to apply the plates. I don't remember for sure which "won". And I don't think they gave any type of time frame on it. It's not listed as part of the ShB package, so probably after that as they are focused on ShB right now.

I think the winning option was to make the plates applicable in more areas than just the main city-states. It would be nice to at least be able to do it at any camp. For me personally more plates is a must.

[Callinon]

Not sure that's entirely correct. You cannot place items in the dresser unless they have full condition (so they need to be repaired before going in), the dye at the time of storage stays, also variable stats stay as well so whatever they have going in will be the same if you take it out. Of course the stats on a piece of gear make no difference if it's being used for glamour, but they remain unaffected incase you intend to retrieve the piece. I think the name of the person who crafts a piece might stay as well although I'm not sure about that.

An FC chest doesn't store that much unique data to the dresser though. As mentioned, the dresser will hold varying amounts of usually untradable gear with differing dyes and stats. There likely would be more active dressers than FC chests in the game. The FC chest is essentially like a limited retainer, you still need to remove things to use them, as opposed to a dresser where you can dye and/or glamour stuff without even leaving the menu.

The repair thing is just because the dresser (and the armoire for that matter) doesn't store the condition field. So SE make you repair something to at least 100% so you can't use the dresser as a way to bypass repair costs. Just saves on overhead not to store a field it doesn't have to care about.

Wasn't sure whether dye information was stored or not as I've always opted to put things into the dresser undyed.

The FC chest stores exactly the same information your inventory, saddlebag, or retainer does as far as item data goes. The behavior of the system interacting with other systems doesn't change how the data is stored. It stores full items, just like all the other things that store full items. The only real difference between the FC chest system and your retainers is the interaction with the FC management system (for tab permissions) and recording the history. Otherwise it's a retainer.

[linay]

The dresser stores dye information.

[Reimmi]

I wish they'd just give us more plates, and then copy the wow transmog system
just check off a piece of gear when you loot it, it gets added to a tab and you can glamour to it from then on, to make up for prisms just make it so when you make a glamour plate it uses prisms, but it's still free to glamour from the plate after that