Custom tailor Viera and Hrothgar gear to their appearance

[Aryalandi]

I have been thinking since Viera and Hrothgar are going to be possibly the last races added to the game that it would be nice if they were more unique than the races we have now in their fashion

Say for example that when you reach a class milestone like finishing your 1-50 quests it opens up the option of buying class specific glamour for Viera and Hrothgar at a vendor in one of the cities

(Say a "traditional armor" vendor for simplicity)

These gear sets could be made stylistically similar to the gear you start the game with, but made to reflect your class

For example a Viera dragoon (the easiest example because of its already existing similarities) could still have heels, a headdress similar to what Fran wears could replace the helmet, but still have features of the dragoon helmet, a fancier version of the transparent cloth could fill in the stomach gap present in female dragoon armor, etc

Tank classes like Paladin/Warrior/etc would be more heavily armored of course but still have enough of the general style to be recognizable.



I'd almost wear this as a paladin if there were more armor to it for example.

Hrothgar on the other hand could be more savage, more gladiator like, still show off their muscles and retain what makes them special

That way for both of these races they could play a class, and be very distinct from others while doing so, it would likely take time to get past the "everyone wears the same thing" armor system we have now, but it would be nice if in the future glamor like this is made available that is complimentary to the races wearing it rather than overshadowing that aspect of their character so much

I will be playing a viera from scratch, i would like to be able to retain that sort of individuality regardless of the class that I am playing without resorting to using just one outfit with no headgear for the entirety of my time using that character.

Yes, I'm asking to be a special snowflake.

[LyraKuroneko]

They're already "late'' on the headgear. And with how much model there is for all the gear. Don't dream about it.

[Aryalandi]

They're already "late'' on the headgear. And with how much model there is for all the gear. Don't dream about it.

Every party needs a pooper that's why they invited you. Party pooper... party pooper... (and yes, this part is a joke, Team four star song quotes are needed at times. Maybe it was in poor taste.)

*ahem*

I'll be holding on to my dreams, as being outspoken in my desire for at least separate future class based glamor is typically the way to get things noticed, better to dream about it and speak up than to remain silent and absolutely never have it happen.

[Reynhart]

I've never entirely understood why there are no real differences at all in gear between races

The most likely explanation is that it costs too much money for too little impact.

[LyraKuroneko]

Every party needs a pooper that's why they invited you. Party pooper... party pooper...

*ahem*

I'll be holding on to my dreams, as being outspoken in my desire for at least separate future class based glamor is typically the way to get things noticed, better to dream about it and speak up than to remain silent and absolutely never have it happen.

Well, sorry about that but, well... already said it.

That said,you'll have 2 gears that will be custom as usual. Better than nothing.

[Aryalandi]

Updating my original post to clarify what I'm actually looking for with this >.> which was certainly never a debate about if it will ever happen and why it won't and how SE will never do it.

[Iscah]

Why should these new races get more special treatment than the others?

Au Ra don't get their culturally-significant shredded hems and scale-patterned belts, even on the nomad costume designed entirely for an Auri culture.

Elezen don't get better tailoring or the "exquisite silverwork" referred to in the lorebook description of their gear.

Roegadyn don't get their "unique cross-stitched" leather armguards.

Lalafell don't get "traditional" scarves to wear over anything but their starter gear.


Just because Viera and Hrothgar are (maybe) the last races to be added doesn't make them more special than the existing ones. Either we get new racially-tailored gear for everyone, or - most likely - for no-one. If you want "culturally appropriate" gear for your character, you have to reuse your starter gear the same as everyone else, or find things that fit their description.

If you want your Viera dragoon to have the lacy fabric, you'll just have to substitute the starter gear. It covers about the same amount of skin.

[Aryalandi]

Why should these new races get more special treatment than the others?

Au Ra don't get their culturally-significant shredded hems and scale-patterned belts, even on the nomad costume designed entirely for an Auri culture.

Elezen don't get better tailoring or the "exquisite silverwork" referred to in the lorebook description of their gear.

Roegadyn don't get their "unique cross-stitched" leather armguards.

Lalafell don't get "traditional" scarves to wear over anything but their starter gear.


Just because Viera and Hrothgar are (maybe) the last races to be added doesn't make them more special than the existing ones. Either we get new racially-tailored gear for everyone, or - most likely - for no-one. If you want "culturally appropriate" gear for your character, you have to reuse your starter gear the same as everyone else, or find things that fit their description.

If you want your Viera dragoon to have the lacy fabric, you'll just have to substitute the starter gear. It covers about the same amount of skin.

The thing is: on my male au'ra i generally ended up doing exactly this, as I could never find anything to wear that looked better on him than his starter armor set due to the combination between his build and overall appearance,

If you want to call it unfair that I'm asking for special treatment for new races I never specifically said that older ones /shouldn't/ get custom tailored gear, in fact before I edited my original post I specifically pointed out the fact that I've always been puzzled by the fact that there is next to no variation between races, which was similarly immediately latched on to as a simple time and money saver

I would love it if everyone had their own unique sets for glamour, how many characters do you suppose I've had over my time playing? Because there have been dozens of every race and gender combination being styled after everything from my tribal huntress miqo'te in her new world and skyhunter glamour to my straight out of Ishgard knightly female Elezen to gladiator styled highlander hyur.

And honestly I can't call what female miqo'te wear "traditional" by any stretch of the word given that in spite of calling what you're wearing a loincloth etc just as they did in FFXI it's a skirt, you may continue being salty at me if you wish.

You can find fashion for most characters, Viera and Hrothgar simply don't walk around in gear that's as easily swapped out as everyone elses---which is why there is a delay on the helmets as was previously pointed out.

Having gear available that compliments what a character starts out looking like is quite nice, I won't apologize for liking my characters to be able to show off what makes them special and unique to me, for example it isn't at all cultural that my pale skinned xaela mage wears an ink blue thavnairian bustier with a dancer styled loincloth to show off her scales as much as possible, because those midnight blue scales on her skin make her unique and the clothing fits her being a black mage in Ul'dah quite well

Every outfit for every character I've had has been based entirely around showing off what makes them different: custom glamour outfits would just make it easier,

Viera in general in and away from their homes wear similar outfits, if you look up a video of them you'll likely find a pair walking through a city, they are completely unrelated to Fran but still have similar clothing, the Viera where Fran once lived? Similar clothing, it stands out, it's something special to them, the headpiece some wear highlight their ears and draw attention to what makes them different, the heels at one point highlighted the different structure of their feet in some lore that may no longer be considered valid, that made them different.

Scrounging together random pieces of gear trying to make something work doesn't particularly sound appealing to me any more than it did on my previously mentioned au'ra guy who wore a recolored version of his starter gear until I got him into a bit of complimentary armor at a significantly higher level

I'd rather not have that issue again when it's easily mended, I'd rather get flack for asking for something special for a character that I'll be spending hundreds of hours on all over again, much like everyone else has a right to ask for and hope for what they want.

[Iscah]

If you want to call it unfair that I'm asking for special treatment for new races I never specifically said that older ones /shouldn't/ get custom tailored gear, in fact before I edited my original post I specifically pointed out the fact that I've always been puzzled by the fact that there is next to no variation between races, which was similarly immediately latched on to as a simple time and money saver

You never "specifically" said that the older ones shouldn't get it, but you emphasised Viera and Hrothgar, and said (copy-pasted from your original post) "it would be nice if they were more unique than the races we have now in their fashion". Therefore, suggesting that only they should get customised gear.

If everyone gets new custom gear, great.

But not "these two races get something special" while everyone else misses out.


I've been through the same struggle keeping my male Au Ra dressed in things that suit him, but it would be a great deal more frustrating if other races got special treatment and race-specific alterations to gear, but he doesn't.

Seriously, if they haven't made any effort to adjust clothing for Au Ra build that direly needs it (eg. simply stretching the Hyuran model for collars and pauldrons until you get things like the Lv70 SMN relic that stabs him in the face, instead of modifying them to fit properly) then I don't see why they would make extra-special new designs for these new races. Especially if they haven't even got helmets sorted out.

It would be nice to have it for everyone, but not so nice to have it for just the new races while the others go neglected - unless they intend to go back and modify the others as well.

(And of course if they did modify it? People wouldn't be happy about that either because they wanted the standard version and they're stuck with the altered one.)

[LaylaTsarra]

I'm all for more unique tied to race gear that makes them special. Interestingly enough many seem to want to do just the opposite and unlock gear for all races to use. Certainly not something I support and I'll agree if one race gets them all races should.