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  1. #1
    Player
    DuskTS's Avatar
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    Cupid Duskysquirrel
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    Thok Ast Thok (Hard) Ravana needs to be nerfed

    I'm sick of seeing this fight appear in my trial roulette and then taking 30 minutes + 30% echo to beat, it has too many points of failure for single-digit IQ dutyfinder knuckledraggers including:
    • idiots can't grasp the shield mechanic over the course of 30 minutes
    • tanks cleave the party, usually healers, with Rav basic attacks or his hadouken blast
    • df literally can't kill the adds without several echo buffs, not uncommon to see 8 stacks of vuln in the first wipe
    • people leave the fight never learning how to dodge slaughter, because it's poorly telegraphed honestly

    Anyway, please fix this fight so it is worth doing considering the piddly amount of exp+tomes trial roulette awards.
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    There is nothing to be fixed. It's an old fight, people can and will forget mechanics. Even I go ??? when I forget where to stand when he does his arm charge thing. The fight could be Simon Says and people will find a way to futz it... oh wait.

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  3. #3
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    What. Nerf a trial that is now 4 years old because you seem to be having issues with it?

    How about... no.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I hate when people are like "it's not that hard" when I'm struggling with a thing, but honestly... it's not that hard.
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  5. #5
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DuskTS View Post
    I'm sick of seeing this fight appear in my trial roulette and then taking 30 minutes + 30% echo to beat, it has too many points of failure for single-digit IQ dutyfinder knuckledraggers including:
    • idiots can't grasp the shield mechanic over the course of 30 minutes
    • tanks cleave the party, usually healers, with Rav basic attacks or his hadouken blast
    • df literally can't kill the adds without several echo buffs, not uncommon to see 8 stacks of vuln in the first wipe
    • people leave the fight never learning how to dodge slaughter, because it's poorly telegraphed honestly

    Anyway, please fix this fight so it is worth doing considering the piddly amount of exp+tomes trial roulette awards.
    Or you know you can explain the fight to make sure everyone's on the same page before the pull happens whenever you see that new player thing emerge in the chat box.
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    Player
    Noitems's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Noitems Ever
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It doesn't need to be nerfed, all you need to do is explain it really quickly. This is how I do it for new people.
    "He cleaves don't stand near the tank, attack his side without the circle, kill the adds. After the transition make sure a wall is always behind you."

    Everything else should be common sense from that point in the game including markers and safe spots.

    We can always stay silent and hope people can explain a fight, but I would say in your case especially considering how much you despise it, I would recommend making macros for it.
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  7. #7
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    YOU DONT PAY MY SUB /s lol
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  8. #8
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
    暗闇の力#7805

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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Yeah, this isnt even one of the annoying fights. Ill take this every day for a month if i never have to do crysalis again(slow, several phase breaks, and the point everyone fails is almost 10 mins in). Or see a group unable to keep up with the second half of pool of tribute(shaky healers? good luck). Or a party wipe to the same attack over and over in final steps(how hard is it to stack?). As for your specific complaints, you can always explain what people are doing wrong. Especially after a wipe, "Does anyone have any questions before we go again?" Someone repeatedly getting the shield knockback? "Attack the side without shield". Tank cleaving the party? My screen says youre a tank so thats on you - if the other tank doesnt know what hes doing dont let him have agro. Killing adds is rediculous - as a BLM i one shot spirit adds and can drop moon ones in 3ish hits without help. Do people forget the fight has adds? Quick call out when he starts to summon them, "dont forget adds". And if you did everything else right, not knowing where to stand for one attack(poorly telegraphed as it is) isnt a big deal.
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