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    This is my worry for the upcoming NA split. I can’t see how cutting the player pool on a data center in half could do anything but drastically negatively impact queue times. I too rarely play at prime time for my DC, but so far that hasn’t been an issue, but I’m thinking it probably will be very soon. And swapping data centers isn’t really a viable option for me as my ping would be unplayably high. I hope this all sorts itself out eventually, and maybe they are slowly working toward a better solution involving bringing larger pools of players together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    This is my worry for the upcoming NA split. I can’t see how cutting the player pool on a data center in half could do anything but drastically negatively impact queue times.
    I don't think the NA split will have the same impact as the EU split.

    The EU split is actually a split in half, before we had 10 servers in one data center, now we only have 5. We will soon get 2 new servers, so 6 in each data center, but let's wait and see if actually enough people join the game in 5.0 to fill these servers...

    The NA split will turn 2 data centers into 3, so each one will lose less than the half. It's going from 13 and 11 servers per data center to 8 in each one, wich is the same amount of servers we had in the EU before they added 2 new ones with Stormblood.


    Overall I think the problem with the EU split is that it's in a state where 1 data center is too crowded, but we don't have the people to actually fill 2 data centers. The EU servers are overall well populated, and it seems the EU playerbase growths. With SB and ShB they add/ed 4 new servers, wich is a 50% increase compared to the 8 we had in ARR and HW. And 12 crowded servers are maybe too much for one data center? Aether has currently 13 servers, including Balmung, and SE seems to think that it's simply too much to handle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    This is my worry for the upcoming NA split. I can’t see how cutting the player pool on a data center in half could do anything but drastically negatively impact queue times. I too rarely play at prime time for my DC, but so far that hasn’t been an issue, but I’m thinking it probably will be very soon. And swapping data centers isn’t really a viable option for me as my ping would be unplayably high. I hope this all sorts itself out eventually, and maybe they are slowly working toward a better solution involving bringing larger pools of players together.
    I don't think NA will have the same issues bc we have an overall higher population. Aether will still have Gilgamesh while Crystal will have both Balmung and Mateus. I know nothing of the primal server but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a big population server backing it still. The other issue that the European servers have is that they have half the player base compared to NA. Like, I understand we are pulling a lot of WoW refugees as of late and we are about to go into a new expansion, but I don't believe that will help the EU servers. You would need to gain a lot of players for the ques to be populated again. But that is just my opinion and I could be wrong. As for NA data centers, I would be more scared about the impending marketboard crash. As someone who plays on your server and who has an alt on a big population server, we are looking at at least 30% devaluation of crafted ilvl 380 gear etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    I don't think NA will have the same issues bc we have an overall higher population. Aether will still have Gilgamesh while Crystal will have both Balmung and Mateus. I know nothing of the primal server but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't have a big population server backing it still.
    Primal will be fine since Leviathan is a pretty close third place in player population.

    Really, the plan for the NA datacenter split seems to be a lot more organized given that each datacenter has one super-populated server (Balmung, Greg and Leviathan), at least one other server with a higher population because they couldn't get on the super-populated server in that datacenter, and most of the predominantly desolate servers going to the Crystal datacenter as a reminder to Balmung players that they have almost no excuse now not to transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Primal will be fine since Leviathan is a pretty close third place in player population.

    Really, the plan for the NA datacenter split seems to be a lot more organized given that each datacenter has one super-populated server (Balmung, Greg and Leviathan), at least one other server with a higher population because they couldn't get on the super-populated server in that datacenter, and most of the predominantly desolate servers going to the Crystal datacenter as a reminder to Balmung players that they have almost no excuse now not to transfer.
    Well, the EU datacenter has no super populated worlds, and also none with a compareable super low population. Instead they all have a high population of 9k+ people, except Louisoix, wich has "only" 8400 people. There is a reason we are getting 2 new servers again: The EU servers are full. Basically all of them. And I guess so was the datacenter.

    The split was done with the language barrier in mind. Servers with more french people got put into Chaos, servers with more german people got put into Light. I would call that organized.


    Also, the majority of Europe lives in the same timezone, while the US is split over 4. Especially between the high populated east- and westcoasts are a few hours difference, wich means peak hours in EU are more of a problem than in NA.

    https://www.travelbook.de/data/uploa...1-1040x690.jpg
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    Last edited by Tint; 04-09-2019 at 10:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Well, the EU datacenter has no super populated worlds, and also none with a compareable super low population. Instead they all have a high population of 9k+ people, except Louisoix, wich has "only" 8400 people. There is a reason we are getting 2 new servers again: The EU servers are full. Basically all of them. And I guess so was the datacenter.
    Where did you get those numbers?
    ffxivcensus.com is really inaccurate since "Active" players mean that:
    * (Any reference to "Active" characters, refers to characters that have claimed the "Dress-up Raubahn" mount from the 4.1 story)
    Its a terrible source tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greywolfamakir View Post
    Where did you get those numbers?
    From the Lucky Bancho census a few months ago :O

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...anuary_1_2019/

    But well... honestly I don't know how they determine active characters xD I just trust them o.o/
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    Last edited by Tint; 04-09-2019 at 10:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    From the Lucky Bancho census a few months ago :O

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...anuary_1_2019/

    But well... honestly I don't know how they determine active characters xD I just trust them o.o/
    Usually it's based on something like a current MSQ achievement or mount/minion.
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    I don't know if we're on same DC after the split but as DPS and healer I have very quick queues on any roulette so far.

    I play 6pm-10pm CET if that matters.
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