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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Primal will be fine since Leviathan is a pretty close third place in player population.

    Really, the plan for the NA datacenter split seems to be a lot more organized given that each datacenter has one super-populated server (Balmung, Greg and Leviathan), at least one other server with a higher population because they couldn't get on the super-populated server in that datacenter, and most of the predominantly desolate servers going to the Crystal datacenter as a reminder to Balmung players that they have almost no excuse now not to transfer.
    Well, the EU datacenter has no super populated worlds, and also none with a compareable super low population. Instead they all have a high population of 9k+ people, except Louisoix, wich has "only" 8400 people. There is a reason we are getting 2 new servers again: The EU servers are full. Basically all of them. And I guess so was the datacenter.

    The split was done with the language barrier in mind. Servers with more french people got put into Chaos, servers with more german people got put into Light. I would call that organized.


    Also, the majority of Europe lives in the same timezone, while the US is split over 4. Especially between the high populated east- and westcoasts are a few hours difference, wich means peak hours in EU are more of a problem than in NA.

    https://www.travelbook.de/data/uploa...1-1040x690.jpg
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    Last edited by Tint; 04-09-2019 at 10:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Well, the EU datacenter has no super populated worlds, and also none with a compareable super low population. Instead they all have a high population of 9k+ people, except Louisoix, wich has "only" 8400 people. There is a reason we are getting 2 new servers again: The EU servers are full. Basically all of them. And I guess so was the datacenter.
    Where did you get those numbers?
    ffxivcensus.com is really inaccurate since "Active" players mean that:
    * (Any reference to "Active" characters, refers to characters that have claimed the "Dress-up Raubahn" mount from the 4.1 story)
    Its a terrible source tbh.
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    I don't know if we're on same DC after the split but as DPS and healer I have very quick queues on any roulette so far.

    I play 6pm-10pm CET if that matters.
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    The real problem for Raubahn is just a design problem. Something that should have been thought about and prevented. Anyway, if SE didn't learn its lesson, we will have the same crap with Shadowbringers. Datacenters split or not.
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    The US split wont be nearly as bad as the EU split, as each DC is effectively only losing around 30% instead of 50% of the player base.
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    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Bit the issue goes a bit further than just Raubahn savage.

    When Orbonne and Hydatos dropped, we exceeded the DC's instance capacity (in the EU)
    Regardless of what you were queuing for, you could be sat in a queue for an extra 20 minutes even with a full party, because the DC couldn't generate any more instances.

    That's a peak time, but it's during the end of a patch cycle, so a new expansion will be worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Efrye View Post
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    I don't buy the image or much what of what you mentioned. I've played the game at many different times after the split whether it's during peak hours or during very late at night / early morning and haven't had to wait that so long (226m or 5hrs) for any duty in the roulette (excluding frontlines) so something doesn't add up here
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    I think at this time it's hard to get a good measurement of queue times, as the game is going to be on a decline as people wait for the release of Shadowbringers... Certainly the split isn't helping at getting into raids and dungeons, but it's not the only cause.
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    On one hand I appreaciate the data center split, because it reduced lag a lot for me recently.
    However I find it really weird, doing a data center split on a data center, where maybe 100.000ish players play.
    I mean, look at it from a bigger perspective. What would happen, if FFXIV ever got the amount of players WoW has? Like active players.
    According to the LuckyBancho Census FFXIV has "only" around 600.000 active players (those 14 million accounts SE likes to portrait is just general user accounts. We're reaching almost 15 million now). WoW at its peak however had 12 million active players (and to prove, this was not only the 'user accounts': In 2014 WoW already had over 100 million user accounts).

    Now I try to imagine, what Square Enix would do, if they actually were able to reach 12 million active players. Would they split the current 7 datacenters with its 66 servers into 140 datacenters with 1.320 servers or what?
    I mean seriously. This is something Square Enix should definitely plan for, even if it never happens. They should develop the game with 10+ million players in mind, even if they might never reach this number anymore, since people like to say "MMORPGs are dead" - just in case it might happen.
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    Last edited by Arkfrost; 04-09-2019 at 11:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkfrost View Post
    I mean seriously. This is something Square Enix should definitely plan for, even if it never happens. They should develop the game with 10+ million players in mind, even if they might never reach this number anymore, since people like to say "MMORPGs are dead" - just in case it might happen.
    Except that given how the game is built, taking the money required to maintain all that dead space on servers and lighting it on fire would be more cost effective. It'd be easier and cheaper just to add more servers....you know, what they've been doing already.
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