Scholar Changes For Better Life

[Nathanial]

I just want Scholar to be less clunky as a healer. Honestly at this point I would go so far as to say i rather have my pets skills on my Job instead of having the free mp heals the pet gives.

To this end i have an idea on changing pet mechanics in general but all this comes from a focus on Scholar. Basically I want to remove the pet as a separate entity. Remove it from the party list and make it more of a sprite that is attached to its caster giving them access to its heals and skills while removing the management of their position on the field. This also implements a balance change for Scholars.

So far Scholars are the one class that does not have a instant cast heal spell. By applying fairies to the Caster, the Fairy will be allowed to heal while the caster is moving and the fairy moving with it. While the fairy will still technically be casting the skill, it will do so while on the move. Thus giving it the same implications as an Astro using aspected benifict and white mage using regen.

this will also remove fairies taking damage from persisting dot aoes that they will have to travel through to get in position to cast aoe skills or use unity.

All in all this could be implement to all pets making Summoner have a slight change to play style by which pet they summon, ifrit being a summoner who fights in melee range and Garuda being at caster range. The only pet this would possibly not work with is titan but for a summoner who uses Titan in solo content, Casting Titan can either put cover on the summoner if you still want to implement pet HP or Summoning Titan Reduces Damage taken by summoner and/or increases the summoners Vitality making Titan still preform as intended in solo content.

Just an idea that i personally would like to continue using these classes but otherwise as a lot of people put it, "If you don't like the class you're playing then play something else."

[Kurando]

So far Scholars are the one class that does not have a instant cast heal spell.."

In comparison to other healers, the abilities through Aetherflow are instant cast. Why does SCH need to have insta-spells when it has powerful abilities? If the fairy follows the master then Fae Union needs total rework as that would require the SCH to be close to the intended target at times it doesn't really need to be.

[Nathanial]

True we do have Aetherflow and that helps but not of those abilites can just be used on demand. for Example, if im out of aetherflow and its on cooldown still i cant use any ability, also, most of my Aoe abilities have a cool down on top of the need for Aetherflow.

As far as fey union goes honestly i dont use the skill. some might say that a bad thing but to lock your fairy to do a heal over time for the same amount or less than physic just doesnt seem like a good trade. I can get more healing done by having the fairy cast Fey illumination on my position and then arouse whispering dawn. this would be effective healing for at least 30 second on the party instead of just one target and helps scholar where they are the weakest which is Aoe healing. Honestly i would trade Fey Union for a skill that placed my fairy and healed in and aoe for lower potency then have the tether ability which just continues the single target healing that scholars already have.

[Kurando]

Ok so because you mentioned it, Rouse does NOT effect Whispering Dawn. Illumination doesn't effect it either because Rouse only buffs spells, and WD is an ability (not spell). As for aoe heals, you have Emergency Tactics to use on low CD for extra Succor heals if required, the Quickened Aetherflow trait allows AF to be up more often, plus if things get really desperate, there is Disapation as well. Indomitability can be very powerful when used correctly, it's just all about that timing, but SCH isn't that bad with aoe heals.

Fey Union is the strongest MP free regen in the game (at 480 potency) and you would benefit using this far more than spamming Physick (400 potency), so it's definitely not the same or weaker. You can also stop the fairy at any time during Union should you need them to do something else, so you have complete freedom in this regard.

[Nathanial]

Ok so because you mentioned it, Rouse does NOT effect Whispering Dawn. Illumination doesn't effect it either because Rouse only buffs spells, and WD is an ability (not spell). As for aoe heals, you have Emergency Tactics to use on low CD for extra Succor heals if required, the Quickened Aetherflow trait allows AF to be up more often, plus if things get really desperate, there is Disapation as well. Indomitability can be very powerful when used correctly, it's just all about that timing, but SCH isn't that bad with aoe heals.

Fey Union is the strongest MP free regen in the game (at 480 potency) and you would benefit using this far more than spamming Physick (400 potency), so it's definitely not the same or weaker. You can also stop the fairy at any time during Union should you need them to do something else, so you have complete freedom in this regard.

I'm starting to think you havent even played shcolar. Fairy potency is less than 50% of that of scholar. Fey Union might say its 480 potency but you obviously havent checked the actually number healed for side by side with the fairy. the fairy literally only heals close to as much as the scholar when it is roused. As far as rouse and illumination go with fairy skills you are right, which only helps to show how week they are.

Just tested Union and it heals for 7000-8000 per tic and does not get any buff from anything. physic heals for 9000+ per cast which is a second faster seeing as it takes 3 seconds for a tic of regen and 2 for a cast. The amount Union heals for is not equal the the amount a roused fairy with fey illumination can heal for while whispering dawn tics off. all these things work better for the party then one person getting fey union and the fairy focusing on only healing one person way over why they need anyways and not stopping without manual input, taking away form your ability to respond to all the other things going on while managing the fairy.

Emergency tactics is nice but the amount of mechanics that require a aoe heal spam like ahkmorn have increased. one emergency tactics cast and one indom in the span of 30 seconds will not be enough to heal through this. not that its not possible but the amount of MP it cost for a scholar to cast succor constantly is much higher than other healers but if we are the only healer cause of the other dying or some other reason then we have to choice and are left with no mp after. Its not that we cant do it its just much more cost to us than others. Lucid dream and aether flow will help us recover but they do not instantly replenish mp and if everyone is getting hit still with attacks an whm and astro have a great advantage in dividing its heals then scholar who can only cast 3 aoe heals, (whispering, indom, succor) and 2 of those being on a 30 and 60 second cool down.

[Kurando]

I can only assume you have not been using SCH for that long as unless you are doing savage/ultimate content, you shouldn't really be having this many issues. Seems there are things you can probably actually improve on yourself, so wish you the best with that.

[Nathanial]

I can only assume you have not been using SCH for that long as unless you are doing savage/ultimate content, you shouldn't really be having this many issues. Seems there are things you can probably actually improve on yourself, so wish you the best with that.

Scholar has been my main since ARR and i have done all sorts of content and these issues are a problem when doing harder content. All the content matters and even if its not an issue unless im doing savage raids or exstream trials, these issues should be addressed. People complain about scholars being op but to me it seems no one has actually ran the numbers and understood why scholars have some of the hardest times.

[Grimoire-M]

Scholar has been my main since ARR and i have done all sorts of content and these issues are a problem when doing harder content. All the content matters and even if its not an issue unless im doing savage raids or exstream trials, these issues should be addressed. People complain about scholars being op but to me it seems no one has actually ran the numbers and understood why scholars have some of the hardest times.

I agree with the sentiment that you don't get how good scholar really is then. If the fairy isn't healing a lot it's usually because they don't have a target that the AI wants to heal. In which case I'd say you need to be more patient and hold off on adlo/physick spam, place it closer to the tanks but not in cleave range, and trust that it'll heal people over time. The only thing I struggle with on Scholar is running out of back to back AoE healing options, which literally only happens if the other healer is dead and I go through a priority list of Succor (if I know the shield is needed) into Indom/Deploy/ET depending on context, and alternate between those options till all I have left is reshielding a Succor. By the point all of those are on cooldown at once the raid is either dead or over the hurdle and you can Whispering Dawn and/or Rouse and start focusing on Raises while Indom and ET cool down for the next sequence of mechanics.

[Nathanial]

I agree with the sentiment that you don't get how good scholar really is then. If the fairy isn't healing a lot it's usually because they don't have a target that the AI wants to heal. In which case I'd say you need to be more patient and hold off on adlo/physick spam, place it closer to the tanks but not in cleave range, and trust that it'll heal people over time. The only thing I struggle with on Scholar is running out of back to back AoE healing options, which literally only happens if the other healer is dead and I go through a priority list of Succor (if I know the shield is needed) into Indom/Deploy/ET depending on context, and alternate between those options till all I have left is reshielding a Succor. By the point all of those are on cooldown at once the raid is either dead or over the hurdle and you can Whispering Dawn and/or Rouse and start focusing on Raises while Indom and ET cool down for the next sequence of mechanics.

I don't think you understand the issues fundementally. All I want is for the fairy to no longer be a free roaming entity and to stop taking damage. I want the fairy tool tips to stop saying things are a certain potency when they are not comparatively that potency to my scholar, and I want people to understand that a 300 potency adlo is weaker in counter part to a 700 potency cure 2 which is its equivelent between scholars and white mage making it so people understand scholars arent op in any way. They are fundemently diferent and currently very clunky to play do to the mixed skills that they get from arcainest seeing as physic is the only heal scholar gets from 1 to 30 and the other healers have multiple healing capubilities from these levels and then some from the past 2 expansions.

[Enla]

I don't think you understand the issues fundementally. All I want is for the fairy to no longer be a free roaming entity and to stop taking damage. I want the fairy tool tips to stop saying things are a certain potency when they are not comparatively that potency to my scholar, and I want people to understand that a 300 potency adlo is weaker in counter part to a 700 potency cure 2 which is its equivelent between scholars and white mage making it so people understand scholars arent op in any way. They are fundemently diferent and currently very clunky to play do to the mixed skills that they get from arcainest seeing as physic is the only heal scholar gets from 1 to 30 and the other healers have multiple healing capubilities from these levels and then some from the past 2 expansions.

Then macro your fairy. I have embrace macro'd to physick and a few other abilities for when I want a targeted heal and it works perfectly fine. I've never had an issue with my fairy healing the wrong target. Also there is a reason you stack crit materia as a SCH. A normal adlo might seem low potency at first, but if you crit it's actually incredibly useful and can almost negate some types of room wide AOE if done correctly. It was never meant to be a counterpart to Cure 2 either, so I'm not sure why you're even comparing them. SCH isn't about reactive healing, we're about preventative healing and in that sense our tool kit is incredibly well suited for our playstyle. If you're playing to react to damage rather than playing to prevent it of course it's going to feel clunky. A SCH who has familiarized themselves with an instance and knows when to put out shields is invaluable.