@OP: that is why I'm still on HW1 prog. People can't seem to understand that M/F needs to be on clear to get to HW1 and when I get into a party that can't even handle dice that is usually my indicator to leave. I give them the 3 strike rule as no one is perfect and sometimes I go a few more runs just to see but there is no need to waste my time with carrying people who don't need to be in this content. However if we get to enrage consistently I usually stay as it means the group understands the fight but might just messing up a bit here and there which happens to all of us from time to time. If only there was an LS on primal or any other data center that has pug raiders I'm sure we wouldn't be in this situation.