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    I don't understand the fuss over the OP's intentions. Probably because I don't actually know the OP's intentions, and would have to make assumptions to claim otherwise.

    I was actually under the impression that this whole thread was about the meaning of the word "lock". (And if such a case is true, the OP truly has a point....people are asking to open a locked door only to find nothingness on the other side.)

    The real controversy is whether or not SE will make content to put behind that locked door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I don't understand the fuss over the OP's intentions. Probably because I don't actually know the OP's intentions, and would have to make assumptions to claim otherwise.

    I was actually under the impression that this whole thread was about the meaning of the word "lock". (And if such a case is true, the OP truly has a point....people are asking to open a locked door only to find nothingness on the other side.)

    The real controversy is whether or not SE will make content to put behind that locked door.
    The whole thing boils down to semantics. Whether or not "genderlocked" is a misnomer has no bearing over what people are actually asking for, and that is male Viera and female Hrothgar to be added to the game. Basically you've got people who are bothered by people making noise in their request to the devs and they're trying to discredit it by nitpicking terminology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    The whole thing boils down to semantics. Whether or not "genderlocked" is a misnomer has no bearing over what people are actually asking for, and that is male Viera and female Hrothgar to be added to the game. Basically you've got people who are bothered by people making noise in their request to the devs and they're trying to discredit it by nitpicking terminology.

    Uhhhh....I'm just going to nod my head anyway without actually understanding.

    You may have a point and you may not, but I'm too clueless to know otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I don't see how making a thread trying to pick apart commonly accepted terminology is going to help the fact people are making fuss over this issue though. Trying to point out that "genderlock doesn't mean what you think it means because I decided what it means right now by myself!!" isn't going to do anything but add more fuel to the fire.
    And throwing around a misconstrued term only serves to inflate an argument and get more attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    And throwing around a misconstrued term only serves to inflate an argument and get more attention.
    Or you could just accept the term that is being used since it has been used that way since literally 1.0 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I don't see how making a thread trying to pick apart commonly accepted terminology is going to help the fact people are making fuss over this issue though
    If that meaning is indeed a commonly accepted meaning for the word gender-lock, I should be able to look it up on google and see that meaning. But all search results point to using it for describing a class locked to one gender only in other MMOs. If you add the word "race" to your search, you will get FFXIV forum posts and articles regarding male Viera and Hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Or you could just accept the term that is being used since it has been used that way since literally 1.0 days.
    So let's continue to misuse a term just because we've always misused it. Sure, okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    If that meaning is indeed a commonly accepted meaning for the word gender-lock, I should be able to look it up on google and see that meaning. But all search results point to using it for describing a class locked to one gender only in other MMOs. If you add the word "race" to your search, you will get FFXIV forum posts and articles regarding male Viera and Hrothgar.
    If people used it back during 1.0 without anyone taking issue with it, I don't see why it is a problem all of a sudden. I mean it literally makes sense if you think about it. Something is genderlocked when it is limited to a specific gender, just like when a class is limited to just one gender. How is a race any different than a class in this sense?

    If you want to play Hrothgar you are locked into playing as a male. Same in concept as having to be a certain gender in order to play a certain class/job.

    This notion that "genderlocked" implies that the content is already in the game and that players are just waiting for it to be unlocked is something you came up with on your own. No where else has that been stated. You're creating your own things to take issue with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    So let's continue to misuse a term just because we've always misused it. Sure, okay.
    You're expecting everyone else to change their lexicon because you think a word choice is poor? Doesn't that seem unreasonable/pointless to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    If people used it back during 1.0 without anyone taking issue with it, I don't see why it is a problem all of a sudden..
    That's where the problem is. The number of players back in 1.0 was not as massive or even close to what we have today. You have a lot of players coming from different MMOs at different times and the majority came after 2.0 (and some had no idea that Miqo'te and Roes were only one gender). So naturally, the majority will not be familiar with the 1.0 usage of the term and would be using it the way they knew it in other MMOs. So in this case, the majority can actually change the meaning of a term used back in 1.0 to something else, since now the new meaning became the commonly known meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    You're expecting everyone else to change their lexicon because you think a word choice is poor? Doesn't that seem unreasonable/pointless to you?
    I consider this whole ordeal to be unreasonable/pointless.
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