You can't "lock" something that doesn't exist.

[Melichoir]

Again with this:

Everyone who is familiar with MMOs understands what Gender Locking means. You are arguing semantics in an effort to discredit the crux of what people are upset about. Stop it please and stick to the more meaningful issue which is people's dissatisfaction with how two races were rolled out with only one gender selectable.

[Joven]

Again with this:

Everyone who is familiar with MMOs understands what Gender Locking means. You are arguing semantics in an effort to discredit the crux of what people are upset about. Stop it please and stick to the more meaningful issue which is people's dissatisfaction with how two races were rolled out with only one gender selectable.

They're not trying to discredit anything, just point out that all this fussing isn't helping anything. How much of a drama poo storm would have happened if the developers had decided not to release ANY new races? The fact that we're getting TWO at once is pretty darned considerate of them even with the limitations. Also the fact that they never said they WEREN'T going to release the other genders, just not at this juncture.

[Lacan]

They're not trying to discredit anything, just point out that all this fussing isn't helping anything. How much of a drama poo storm would have happened if the developers had decided not to release ANY new races? The fact that we're getting TWO at once is pretty darned considerate of them even with the limitations. Also the fact that they never said they WEREN'T going to release the other genders, just not at this juncture.

I don't see how making a thread trying to pick apart commonly accepted terminology is going to help the fact people are making fuss over this issue though. Trying to point out that "genderlock doesn't mean what you think it means because I decided what it means right now by myself!!" isn't going to do anything but add more fuel to the fire.

[Joven]

I don't see how making a thread trying to pick apart commonly accepted terminology is going to help the fact people are making fuss over this issue though. Trying to point out that "genderlock doesn't mean what you think it means because I decided what it means right now by myself!!" isn't going to do anything but add more fuel to the fire.

And throwing around a misconstrued term only serves to inflate an argument and get more attention.

[Lacan]

And throwing around a misconstrued term only serves to inflate an argument and get more attention.

Or you could just accept the term that is being used since it has been used that way since literally 1.0 days.

[Joven]

Or you could just accept the term that is being used since it has been used that way since literally 1.0 days.

So let's continue to misuse a term just because we've always misused it. Sure, okay.

[Alucard135]

I don't see how making a thread trying to pick apart commonly accepted terminology is going to help the fact people are making fuss over this issue though

If that meaning is indeed a commonly accepted meaning for the word gender-lock, I should be able to look it up on google and see that meaning. But all search results point to using it for describing a class locked to one gender only in other MMOs. If you add the word "race" to your search, you will get FFXIV forum posts and articles regarding male Viera and Hrothgar.

[Lacan]

If that meaning is indeed a commonly accepted meaning for the word gender-lock, I should be able to look it up on google and see that meaning. But all search results point to using it for describing a class locked to one gender only in other MMOs. If you add the word "race" to your search, you will get FFXIV forum posts and articles regarding male Viera and Hrothgar.

If people used it back during 1.0 without anyone taking issue with it, I don't see why it is a problem all of a sudden. I mean it literally makes sense if you think about it. Something is genderlocked when it is limited to a specific gender, just like when a class is limited to just one gender. How is a race any different than a class in this sense?

If you want to play Hrothgar you are locked into playing as a male. Same in concept as having to be a certain gender in order to play a certain class/job.

This notion that "genderlocked" implies that the content is already in the game and that players are just waiting for it to be unlocked is something you came up with on your own. No where else has that been stated. You're creating your own things to take issue with.

So let's continue to misuse a term just because we've always misused it. Sure, okay.

You're expecting everyone else to change their lexicon because you think a word choice is poor? Doesn't that seem unreasonable/pointless to you?

[Alucard135]

If people used it back during 1.0 without anyone taking issue with it, I don't see why it is a problem all of a sudden..

That's where the problem is. The number of players back in 1.0 was not as massive or even close to what we have today. You have a lot of players coming from different MMOs at different times and the majority came after 2.0 (and some had no idea that Miqo'te and Roes were only one gender). So naturally, the majority will not be familiar with the 1.0 usage of the term and would be using it the way they knew it in other MMOs. So in this case, the majority can actually change the meaning of a term used back in 1.0 to something else, since now the new meaning became the commonly known meaning.

[Lacan]

That's where the problem is. The number of players back in 1.0 was not as massive or even close to what we have today. You have a lot of players coming from different MMOs are different times and the majority are after 2.0 (and some had no idea that Miqo'te and Roes were only one gender). So naturally, the majority will not be familiar with the 1.0 usage of the term and would be using it the way they knew it in other MMOs. So in this case, the majority can actually change the meaning of a term used back in 1.0 to something else, since now the new meaning became the commonly known meaning.

That is true too, but I don't really see the point in making an issue about it regardless. Even if the term has changed in meaning somewhat, context should make it very clear what people mean by "genderlocked" and as long as the word is conveying the right meaning that is what matters. You're not going to get an entire group of people to change the word they're using just because you don't think it is a perfect fit for the situation anymore.