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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    Yea, I suspect the Hrothgar are sharing the roe model. Keep in mind that elezen, hyur, miqote, and au ra all share the same skeleton when it comes to gear. They're just modified a bit. Hrothgar is probably using a heavily modified roe model.

    If they were a brand new model that would mean SE manually mapped each piece of gear to the new skeleton. I really doubt they did that. :v Insane amount of work to do when they could use a similar model that has all that done already.
    Your statement became irrelevant the moment you said heavily modified. If Hrothgar is using a heavily modified roe model, then you could also say that it using a heavily modified Zbrush/Maya/3DS Max human base, or heavily modified cube if thats what they start with. Very few character models start as a cube, and they need a base. If the roe model was used as a base, then fair enough, it makes sense given their size and build, but that doesn't make it any less of a new model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Your statement became irrelevant the moment you said heavily modified. If Hrothgar is using a heavily modified roe model, then you could also say that it using a heavily modified Zbrush/Maya/3DS Max human base, or heavily modified cube if thats what they start with. Very few character models start as a cube, and they need a base. If the roe model was used as a base, then fair enough, it makes sense given their size and build, but that doesn't make it any less of a new model.
    I was just trying to say that gear wouldn't be as big of an issue if they did use the roe model as a base, since all the gear in the game is already mapped to that model's skeleton. Not trying to downplay the effort that had to go into making the model though, it is obvious they put a lot of work into it. That's why we still aren't 100% if it is partially reused assets or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I was just trying to say that gear wouldn't be as big of an issue if they did use the roe model as a base, since all the gear in the game is already mapped to that model's skeleton. Not trying to downplay the effort that had to go into making the model though, it is obvious they put a lot of work into it. That's why we still aren't 100% if it is partially reused assets or not.
    You could be right, it makes sense to use Roe as a reference, but to all the people saying "it's just a roe body with a cat head", you are all ignorant to how character models are made
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    You could be right, it makes sense to use Roe as a reference, but to all the people saying "it's just a roe body with a cat head", you are all ignorant to how character models are made
    The Hrothgar spoiler video is pretty awesome. Perhaps they used some assets from the Roe model but after all is said and done the animations and look for the male gender presented at Fanfest is pretty awesome in my opinion. I plan on Fantasia for two of my alts to Viera (perhaps one for each clan) and I will certainly be making a character for the male Hrothgar when the benchmark hits next month and will probably have fun playing it when 5.0 hits.

    https://youtu.be/2l82wTaVhW0

    I would certainly have to reserve judgement on any male Viera or female Hrothgar until they're shown not only as concept art if that is coming but the actually models in game with their animations. Personally I was very excited to learn female Viera were coming but I was still very reserved about my excitement until they presented them in game along with their running and other related animations. I was ecstatic to see that they were simply awesome.

    Personally I could never warm up to female Elzen, Highlander or Roe's. They just didn't do it for me and still don't but that is a very personal decision and I respect those who enjoy those genders in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    you are all ignorant to how character models are made
    It is as if it's forbidden for a designer to use a shortcut to create a new model in a quicker time and must start from a plane every time lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
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    Sadly a lot don't understand this nightmare and think that the dev team can do all that on demand quickly and they're just lazy (they better not reuse another race as a base model!!).
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    Last edited by Alucard135; 04-09-2019 at 12:54 AM.

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