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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
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    https://twitter.com/ff14forums_txt/s...33606185738240

    One more for the road I guess, also I know these threads don't get post unless people respond to your bait, so enjoy your e-win I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    I'm seeing all sorts of stuff about "gender lock" on the two new races, as if SE is purposefully withholding content from us, and that female Hrothgar and male Viera exist as playable races, but are "locked" from us.

    The thing is, making another gender of an existing race is the same amount of work as making a single gender of a new race. You can't just slap boobs on a hrothgar and call it female, you have to make an entirely new model, and you have to match existing gear to it, you have to make all the new customization options, and the list of things just goes on.

    The fact is, it takes the same amount of manpower and effort to make a single race with two genders as it does to make two races with a single gender.

    They did not have the manpower to make two races with two genders. They've told us this, and they've said that because they wanted to include hrothgar, a concession had to be made.

    Yes, I do believe the other genders should be created. But no, I don't believe there's any locking, malice, personal attacks on sexuality, or anything of that nature that I've seen in the general hubbub that is these forums.

    We got a nice thing. We had to lose another nice thing to get it. I'd say have patience, and that the extra genders will come eventually.
    I've been saying something similar in other threads and it's either ignored or people want to dispute you. I'll never understand the "we want it now!" mentality that people have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    The fact is, it takes the same amount of manpower and effort to make a single race with two genders as it does to make two races with a single gender.
    So they could have made one race with two genders instead. That would have caused little complaint, especially since nobody was expecting the Hrothgar anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You forgot the tail, slightly hunched back, different feet and fur-like textures on the chest area.
    Actually, if you look at the model of Hrothgar they have ordinary toes with no claws, so if he wore different shoes, they'd look the same.

    So they basically took the hunched look from male miqotes run, took miqotes tail, and put them on a roegaedyn, and put a Lion head on it. So the new stuff would just be the head and fur.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 04-08-2019 at 01:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDevo View Post
    Yes, I do believe the other genders should be created. But no, I don't believe there's any locking, malice, personal attacks on sexuality, or anything of that nature that I've seen in the general hubbub that is these forums.
    But, but peoples political agenda's and what ever other excuse they can come up with will be null and void if they think with logic! For some reason, people can't leave real world issues out of a fantasy game ... *shrug*
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    Last edited by Nyxn607; 04-08-2019 at 12:22 PM.
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    Someone that wants to play Viera will also be forced to play a female character. That is what is otherwise known as genderlock.


    This isn't complicated stuff, and this is coming from someone that doesn't really give two shites about the genderlock but can still fully recognize that it exists.
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    What's the point of being pedantic over the term genderlock?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    What's the point of being pedantic over the term genderlock?
    So OP can get their turn looking down on people who don't like gender locks, while getting their own thread with lots of views/replies.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 04-08-2019 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Someone that wants to play Viera will also be forced to play a female character.
    Which is defeated by the fact that one choosing to play as Viera will already know that there's only female available to it. Why would you choose to play as them and then complain you're being forced?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    That is what is otherwise known as genderlock.
    You mean restraining classes to certain genders? Because that's what genderlock is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    This isn't complicated stuff, and this is coming from someone that doesn't really give two shites about the genderlock but can still fully recognize that it exists.
    Ofc it's not. It's people finding means to bring their grievances to the forefront as much as possible. Such as claiming genderlock when there is none, knowing that the media will lap it up greedily and make an even bigger storm.
    True genderlock is indeed a lazy practice and nothing like this. But hey, whatever forces the devs hand, even if it goes against their budget or artistic vision, right?
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    This thread is dumb. Add me to the screencap.
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