You can't "lock" something that doesn't exist.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Exactly, we want to see the dev team's vision for this game. Not fans' demands. Else we would have gotten Sephiroth for Alphascape instead of the amazing fight against Omega. What bugs me more is that when the dev team tried to partially implement something based on fans' demand, they got labeled with horrible things despite them explaining why they did it instead of people thanking them for their hard work to provide things for as many players as possible.

That's because much of the player base built their own expectations that male viera were going to happen without any guarantee of such. I witnessed it here and in game. They deluded themselves after Paris fanfest into thinking "Oh the males aren't done which is why they didn't show them. They're definitely still coming!" Not to mention the blufever leaks that were nearly, if not 100%, correct in all their predictions/leaks and everyone chose to ignore it. Blissful ignorance. So now they label the devs as lazy, sexist, homophobic, or what have you because they didn't get their way. I realize the above mentioned was a minority, but they were vocal and rude about it. To the people here that are being reasonable and actually voicing your want for male viera and female Hrothgar, thank you for being reasonable adults.

[BillyKaplan]

"Oh the males aren't done which is why they didn't show them."

That's exactly what happened with Hrothgar males, so mocking people for thinking that's why male Vieras weren't shown in Paris is a bit...

[Neoyoshi]

I'm seeing all sorts of stuff about "gender lock" on the two new races, as if SE is purposefully withholding content from us, and that female Hrothgar and male Viera exist as playable races, but are "locked" from us.

The thing is, making another gender of an existing race is the same amount of work as making a single gender of a new race. You can't just slap boobs on a hrothgar and call it female, you have to make an entirely new model, and you have to match existing gear to it, you have to make all the new customization options, and the list of things just goes on.

The fact is, it takes the same amount of manpower and effort to make a single race with two genders as it does to make two races with a single gender.

They did not have the manpower to make two races with two genders. They've told us this, and they've said that because they wanted to include hrothgar, a concession had to be made.

Yes, I do believe the other genders should be created. But no, I don't believe there's any locking, malice, personal attacks on sexuality, or anything of that nature that I've seen in the general hubbub that is these forums.

We got a nice thing. We had to lose another nice thing to get it. I'd say have patience, and that the extra genders will come eventually.

I applaud the effort, but i fear like many others, these words of wisdom will fall on deaf ears. Yoshida's already been interviewed and has addressed that it was a resource & development-based decision; yet readers *ahem* i mean; players still want what they want, and they likely wont stop asking until they get it. D:

Still, very well said; cheers!

[Lambdafish]

I wonder if anyone has been this upset over Mithra and Galka in the 15+ years that those have been around

[LaylaTsarra]

I wonder if anyone has been this upset over Mithra and Galka in the 15+ years that those have been around

LOL certainly a big to do about nothing in my opinion but whatever.

[LyraKuroneko]

I wonder if anyone has been this upset over Mithra and Galka in the 15+ years that those have been around

different game/ different time.

[Joven]

I wonder if anyone has been this upset over Mithra and Galka in the 15+ years that those have been around

Don't give them any ideas.

[Sigma-Astra]

I wonder if anyone has been this upset over Mithra and Galka in the 15+ years that those have been around

People were too upset about Absolute Virtue taking a week or more to kill to care any longer about them I imagine.

[Joven]

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I think the real issue people are having is letting their expectations get the better of them and jumping the gun on the outrage bandwagon. By using a term they knew would generate the most stir they guaranteed people would be talking about this for a long time even after an official decision.

[Fynlar]

Which is defeated by the fact that one choosing to play as Viera will already know that there's only female available to it. Why would you choose to play as them and then complain you're being forced?

Why would that automatically be assumed? Male Viera do exist lore-wise, + they made sure male Miqo'te were playable in this game despite Mithra in FFXI (their obvious inspiration) not having males playable in that game -- and similarly, male Mithra did exist in that game too; one of the expansions even made a big deal out of one.

I'm sure there were a great many people who assumed male Viera would be playable in this game following Miqo'te, and Viera has apparently been in demand for a long while now. So no, I don't think your assumption is as automatic as you think.

You mean restraining classes to certain genders? Because that's what genderlock is.

I feel that a game arbitrarily deciding that a playable race only has one playable gender even when it's clear more than one exists for seemingly no better reason than "we've only ever depicted them as this gender", meaning anyone who wanted to play that race must play that certain gender, also fits the term well enough.