Summary: offensive spells that are not yet in the game (and which job could get them)

[ShariusTC]

i bet SMN will get an awesome ruin V in shadowbringer

[Neela]

i bet SMN will get an awesome ruin V in shadowbringer

if it would have f.e. Fire 4 potency I wouldn't mind... but like 3 and 4 with just minor pot-addition its going to be lol again... another bad possibility would be an untouched-pot but aoe ruin.. x'D

[MagiusNecros]

i bet SMN will get an awesome ruin V in shadowbringer

Only if it has a 5% proc chance to summon our lord and savior Sephirot Egi. I need my Bara chicken nugget pet.

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I really just want more pets. Preferably Sephirot Egi because he buff and tuff.

[Aomine1992]

i bet SMN will get an awesome ruin V in shadowbringer

*Throws up* lol no more ruin please, it's such a waste of a spell with very minor potency boost

[AvenoMatt]

I want smn to get Osmose. It could be an ability that places a dot on an enemy that also heals your pet over time like a better sustain or maybe it drains a % amount of hp from your pet to heal yourself or a target party member, upgrade for physick maybe? Would definitely come in handy but wouldn't be spamable like Vercure since it's at the cost of your pet's hp.

[Grimoire-M]

*Throws up* lol no more ruin please, it's such a waste of a spell with very minor potency boost

I actually want more Ruin spells, but not in the way you're thinking. I'd like to use the current Ruin spells to vary up the filler rotation instead of the hack job that Ruin III/IV got this expansion. Ideally return to the old Ruin III, but give it to us in the form of the Ruin IV proc. Otherwise hard limit it to DWT when you get it. Do the same with Ruin IV as a replacement for Ruin II, but then expand on the proc to allow you to use both outside DWT more often. Maybe even let you store them up a bit for burst situations.

I could see adding Ruin V during Bahamut specifically too in a similar manner, but I'd only want that as a way to use procs during his phase.

[Aomine1992]

I actually want more Ruin spells, but not in the way you're thinking. I'd like to use the current Ruin spells to vary up the filler rotation instead of the hack job that Ruin III/IV got this expansion. Ideally return to the old Ruin III, but give it to us in the form of the Ruin IV proc. Otherwise hard limit it to DWT when you get it. Do the same with Ruin IV as a replacement for Ruin II, but then expand on the proc to allow you to use both outside DWT more often. Maybe even let you store them up a bit for burst situations.

I could see adding Ruin V during Bahamut specifically too in a similar manner, but I'd only want that as a way to use procs during his phase.

While this would not be a bad idea, SE isn't that receptive when it comes to SMN until the literal crap has hit the fan via SBs realease of SMN.

All I can see them doing is replacing Ruin III with the next teir and replacing our further ruin proc with Ruin V becuase if anything SE is predictable when it comes to changes to the ruin spell. That's why I said I rather no more ruin madness but if they can do something interesting like you mentioned I wouldn't be opposed.

[ChaoticCrimson]

Ultima is used only in cutscene and will never fall into the WoL/D hands because its a forbidden magic.

Technically, Ultima is actually used by an enemy in the game. As I recall, God Kefka uses the full Ultima spell in O8S.
I'd still like to see RDM get Ardor at some point as a shoutout to it being used on the job in FFXII's Zodiac system. Not sure if there's too many others that haven't shown up in one form or another.

[ReiMakoto]

Technically, Ultima is actually used by an enemy in the game. As I recall, God Kefka uses the full Ultima spell in O8S.
I'd still like to see RDM get Ardor at some point as a shoutout to it being used on the job in FFXII's Zodiac system. Not sure if there's too many others that haven't shown up in one form or another.

O8s doesn't actually happen though lore wise, its a what if scenario brought about by the wandering minstrel embellishing things, thats why these fights can be so catastrophically powerful.

[ShariusTC]

Any chance they will increase the duration of bio and miasma to 45 or 60 second or or make a spell that refresh both of these duration with single press to make SMN rotation less scram with button press?