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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    I did it months ago, I said people in my LS wanted to do it, yes I'm willing to help them, my LS is awesome for what its worth.

    The problem at the moment is that hardly anyone is playing, not just in my LS but across the board, which makes content like DH difficult to do.

    1. Because people are not motivated to do it due to the drops being useless since the addition of Materia.
    2. Not enough people playing to make up a decent party.

    Both of which can be circumvented with a content finder.
    For starters, people should run content because they enjoy it and the company they play with. It is a foreign idea to me to play a game simply to get gear. Yeah, it's nice, but it's not a big deal, especially if it's not necessary.

    Second, I never said that a content finder should not happen at all, but rather that it should not be like WoW's and should be handled very delicately. I am unsure if the worldess system is a good idea, since it breaks down reliance on the local community, which is necessary in order to foster proper and meaningful social experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    But yea you go ahead and pick out the negative points in my post, we don't want people like me playing FFXIV.. "go play wow!!"
    If you already think your comment was negative, and not what you think is best from your own perspective, then why did you leave it? I simply don't agree with you and I don't like your tone, and it worries me if you are/were on board with the way WoW works, since I believe strongly that it is inherently flawed.

    Whether you believe my reasoning or not, I have been disaffected with WoW since the content finder went live in Wrath, and I hardly ever use the damn thing. I'd rather miss out on the content than deal with the people in there, and it eventually occurred to me that there was no reason to log in often if I couldn't see myself enjoying anything other than questing and the occasional raid with my guild (the latter of which stopped being fun a while ago, due to the nature of WoW's raids and the new raid finder). I started playing FFXIV for a specific reason, because it has an overall better social atmosphere. The last thing I want is to see that ruined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rousseau View Post
    I simply don't agree with you and I don't like your tone, and it worries me if you are/were on board with the way WoW works, since I believe strongly that it is inherently flawed.
    Don't fret I am but one person (as are you) we don't have the power to change things on our own, hence why we have these forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rousseau View Post
    I just have to disagree with that. It's hard to have a game without loot, but the RPG genre is based on story, and an online game is about playing with other people. Loot is just an extra carrot to dangle from the end of the stick, but it is by far the defining principle of a MMO.

    The offline RPG genre is based on story, the online one is based on working together to complete content (normally in the form of slaying a particular monster or conquering a specific dungeon) and getting rewarded for doing so.

    Humans are naturally greedy so yes loot generally becomes the bane of the experience but that's just the way we are.

    Ninja looting and rude players are not inherent to just WoW ya know.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 03-04-2012 at 12:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Don't fret I am but one person (as are you) we don't have the power to change things on our own, hence why we have these forums.
    LOL...


    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    The offline RPG genre is based on story, the online one is based on working together to complete content (normally in the form of slaying a particular monster or conquering a specific dungeon) and get rewarded for doing so.
    I play games for the story, I don't care what game it is.. I play em all for the story. But rewards are always great, Makes everything seem worth it. Kinda makes you think "Why do ppl try so hard just for an achievement" The shiny little title is a reward too. A perfect balance of Story, game play and reward makes a great game. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvari View Post
    I play games for the story, I don't care what game it is.. I play em all for the story. But rewards are always great, Makes everything seem worth it. Kinda makes you think "Why do ppl try so hard just for an achievement" The shiny little title is a reward too. A perfect balance of Story, game play and reward makes a great game. :3
    Indeed, I am a fan of the story telling in both this game and FF11, it does set them both apart from other MMO's out there.

    I didn't mean to come across as being opposed to it, just looking at it from the overal view of what other MMO companies do in general.

    Final Fantasy wouldn't be Final Fantasy without a good story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Indeed, I am a fan of the story telling in both this game and FF11, it does set them both apart from other MMO's out there.

    I didn't mean to come across as being opposed to it, just looking at it from the overal view of what other MMO companies do in general.

    Final Fantasy wouldn't be Final Fantasy without a good story.
    Wasn't trying to call you out, Just trying to explain that ppl come for both not one.

    edit: I play games for the story because i can't be asked to read a book. I'm too lazy to read a book, so i like to enjoy the interactive and large world that gaming and movies bring.
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    Last edited by Sylvari; 03-04-2012 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvari View Post
    LOL...




    I play games for the story, I don't care what game it is.. I play em all for the story. But rewards are always great, Makes everything seem worth it. Kinda makes you think "Why do ppl try so hard just for an achievement" The shiny little title is a reward too. A perfect balance of Story, game play and reward makes a great game. :3
    I agree i like story but Firon Veleth is a Loot whore in every rpg he plays i like my shines lol
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