Quote Originally Posted by Shadowbringer View Post
Fastest logs run in Omega without Echo is cheesing LB3 in 1st Flamethrower, and they kill it before Panto2 ever happens/cast, its even before they need to move the boss to the middle.
Sure you probably raiding, but probably normie tier or so, if you want to argue about speed run, the fastest run this and last tier is how many LB they can get in that fight, Demon Chadarnook and Omega is a good example, not like you know how fast or how many LB they use anyway.

Edit : i just checked my main none-echo logs, and my fastest run on Final Omega was 8:45, my group LB it because we dont want to do 2nd Archive All, you ever skip 2nd Archive All without melee LB the whole fight? i would be delight to see if you/your group did.
Ok... you enticed me back into the conversation.

So to clarify. You were speed running with a group of toxic people who won't LB bc it's a DPS loss? Or are you suggesting that using LB can actually make a fight shorter and therefore increase everyone's DPS?

Basically the point I've been arguing from the beginning. That logs do not encourage people to not use LB. That it isn't as black and white of an issue as you are making out.
But clearly logs were incentivizing you to not use LB.

Edit: This is legitimately the last I will say on the matter though as you are now brandishing your logs as a weapon and becoming insulting.