Thread: Summoner 5.0 changes - summoning -

Originally Posted by Aomine1992

Gosh your reposes have no thought behind them, I explicitly said that the SMN community is split between two opposing views, there is no minority or majority there is a complete fissure that you will not find with any other job honestly.

Some want a split from the clunky ass pet system and out of place dots to move towards a summoner who summons things like Demi bahamut, others like the whole pet system and dots. SMN is in identity crisis, even thought it is in a great place does not mean it’s without its issues.

And saying things like:

If I was in charge, which obviously I'm not, I would have deleted SMN as it stands now

Obviously require a 300 IQ intellect, huh?
And:

Arguably, is it even really a Summoner at that point?

What does this even mean? What is "really a Summoner"?

The problem with the Summoner complaints is that they always boil down to aesthetics and "Muh Traditional Summoner feelz".

Personally I don't think the Job has an Identity crisis. It's the players. Ask 50 Summoner Job "advocates" (couldn't think of a better term) what they would do with the job and get 50 different answers from each. And this appears to be the biggest problem. No one can articulate anything and they expect S-E to parse a bunch of incoherent rambings then whinge that they don't get what they want.

This has been going on for 6 gosh darned years. And it seems that no matter what concessions S-E makes towards this entitled section of the fanbase in trying to make the Summoner work in this style, they just find things to whinge about and wasting energy on complaining about what the Job isn't, rather than what the job is.