The "Wow Refugee's" impact on the FFXIV Community?

[ReportMe]

So over the past couple months with the continuing decline and disappointment of BFA the FFXIV community has seen more and more Wow Refugee's coming to the game (Myself Included). The Wow players are being met by a community that greatly differs from the toxic cesspool that is the current wow community. As a 10+ year Wow player its unfortunate to see the community end up like this, however its understandable when alot of Wow's old fans have resentment, and feel hurt as they watch a game they love start to deteriorate.

The FFXIV community is the embodiment of the love and devotion to better the game that the developers have. I understand all communities will have toxic players I'm not stupid enough to think FFXIV is free of any keyboard trolls and I understand FFXIV has stricter rules regarding chat but that's not what I'm talking about. From personal experience I have never since the days of Burning Crusade met a community like this...Players going out of there way to message you and ask if you need help because they see you're a sprout, random players stopping in and helping in the open world when they see you're about to die or you may have bitten off more than you can chew attacking a lvl 50 world boss as a lvl 35.....RIP

I personally have added more "Random People" to my friends list in this game than I have in the entirety of my time playing Wow. Players interact with each other in the game and on the forums as if they where a family... warm, embracing and truly there to help if you need anything.


So now that I'm done with that I want to get into my questions.


Do you think the mass influx of "Wow Refugee" players will positively or negatively effect the community as a whole? And how so?

As a FFXIV player what are things that you would like to see change (or not change) within the game?

What is one thing you would want to say to "Wow Refugee's" before they enter the community?




Looking forward to seeing your responses! Thanks

[CorbinDallas]

More active players can only ever be a good thing.

[ReportMe]

I'm glad to see that most share your thought on this! Like stated below every game has its nice and toxic players and FFXIV seems to do a good job of weeding the toxic ones out. (Or at least making them less outwardly toxic)

[Nixxe]

More active players can only ever be a good thing.

Definitely not true. You can get a flood of new players who change the culture of the game for the worse or who have different priorities, but become so numerous they're now the focus of the devs, and the previous players lose out as a result. Not saying that's the case here, but getting more players certainly isn't an unequivocal good.

[SirCadogan]

I just worry that some (not all) wow players will try to bring the min/max toxic meta mentality to this game.

I also worry that this particular crowd will cause issues with content by becoming toxically vocal on the forums.

As of right now based on conversation on the wow forums the really toxic players are staying with wow mostly because their egos can’t handle going to a game they never played, hate, and despise, simply for not being wow.

I do think that dungeon runs will become more “GO GO GO GO GO, don’t watch cut scenes, hurry up noob LTP!!!” with lots of griefing over little mistakes etc…

For the most part I think many will be like myself and find this game to be very relaxing, fun, and a community that is welcoming etc…

[Sandoria]

I suspect I'm not a "Wow Refugee" as much as a "final refugee" as ffxi was my first mmo and I've been playing this game since it came out. Both games have so much fun and adventure to them and I definitely recommend both in different ways. To "WoW refugees", you aren't really going to find much refuge here as it's pretty much the exact same community that plays wow. Not everyone that plays wow is a dick nor is everyone that plays this game an angel. I've met some of the greatest people you will ever meet in both games as well as some of the worst. It's really whom you end up engaging with that shapes your perception. I hope all the people that come here enjoy it and bring the best of both worlds together. I wish you continued success in avoiding the things that plagued you in the previous game. My advise to wow "refugees" would be Welcome, enjoy and be kind to others.

[Ogulbuk]

Truth is, i think, the toxic player base is always more visible on the highest end game content. It’s where everyone feels it’s all a race for BIS and will hate on anyone making the slightest mistake.

The coolest thing this game has, is that content patches don’t just focus on the high end game. You get lots of side content to pursue, just for fun, and wirh a lot more lasting appeal (since BIS becomes obsolete anyways.)

[Caitlyn]

I would actually love to meet veteran players from other games, even from WoW. Everyone who needs help will get help. But please keep two things in mind:

1. This is not World of Warcraft. Some things may be the same, but some things are different. So dont try to make it as WoW 2.0. This is still FFXIV.

2. Playing World of Warcraft for 10 years means nothing in FFXIV. You have to learn things completely new. No tank is kiting the boss around the area. There is no 1s GCD.

Nevertheless, I hope you enjoy your time here in FFXIV and like previously said: having more players cannot be a bad thing ^^.
And yes, FFXIV is not free from toxic players. Just ignore them, the rest of the player base is ok.

[drashrock]

2. Playing World of Warcraft for 10 years means nothing in FFXIV.

Very much false. As someone who played wow for 12 years, transitioning to XIV during the latter half of ARR was a near non-issue. I found it very simple to get a grip on specifically because its so similar to WoW. The GCD difference meant nothing, tanks dont kite bosses or mobs in WoW to begin with unless doing high m+ keys. A better dungeon cimparison would've been to stress the importance of dps waiting for the tank to pull. But again, anyone with 10 years of wow experience will know that instantly and flip the switch in their head that says "treat this like Burning Crusade"

The differences are so negligable that anyone with a year of wow experience can easily transition to xiv. The differences are so small, its nothing more than "oh, ok, thats how the gcd works" before you've hit level 2. If i didnt have 12 years of wow experience, yeah, i'd have a tough time learning when i first played. But i do have that experience, so learning was nothing more than making mental footnotes in my reservoir of wow knowledge and rebranding it the XIV reservoir of knowledge.

Dont mistake my post for animosity, i absolutely love xiv, and because of blizzards performance recently, i believe im here to stay instead of spliting my time between the 2 games as i have been doing.

[Caitlyn]

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I was more refering to new FFXIV players, who experienced a few years in WoW and thought they could beat any high end raid easily. Last year, I ve met someone who said something like "I played WoW world first for x years. I know how to tank!" (he was actually kiting the boss and doesnt know how to tank swap). Maybe a troll, but I m not sure. I just want to say, that not anything from WoW will work FFXIV, too.