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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaywalker View Post
    I get you Iscah, and thanks. I have been shifting the terminology I use in the FFXIV community because like you said, people use it differently. Honestly I'd also much rather have the kinds of extremists I'm referencing unheard of here to the point of being considered strawmen than the alternative, it's just been a sort of weird adapting process. From my perspective you guys seem like you're stuck in 2009 haha.

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    I'll keep trying to substitute extremist for SJW or SJ stuff here, but I do want to let you know--in non-videogame and anime communities, SJ will commonly mean left-wing identitarianism. [...] I mention this because the extremists are seriously dangerous and I don't want an FFXIV player to run into problems elsewhere because there's a different connotation!
    I feel like you might also be biased (in the inevitable way that a person sees what's around them as "normal") about what the correct usage of the term is. Perhaps SJW strictly means those more extreme examples in whatever experience you have, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the correct or even common usage of the term elsewhere.

    I'm not speaking from a little bubble of nothing but FFXIV-ness. I see the term used in discussions on the comments of news sites or other communities. It's not a backwards ten-years-ago thing for people to understand "SJW" as a petty insult and not a serious issue. It continues to get used loosely, and holds no value for describing specific degrees of activism unless you're certain your audience have the same understanding.

    Prior to the rise of it as an insult, I understood the term "social justice" as a positive one - and this seems to be supported by the Wikipedia article on that term. It also defines social justice warrior primarily in terms of it being used as an insult - but also that it only began to be used that way around 2011, and was previously considered a "neutral or complimentary phrase".

    So no, we're not stuck in 2009 if we think it's a catch-all insult for views that the writer doesn't like.
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