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    Oopsy Hiero
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    Hello Jay,

    While SE may not be liable for your action outside of the game it does not mean that they should ignore the possible outcome of their actions. While they may never hear or suffer any repercussions legally it can result in a large PR issue. Some actions taken may not bring up legal or other issue but still servery impact a person. Bullying in schools is a huge issue with very little legal actions taken to correct it. Some retaliation might not be direct, if you are friend with Person A and Person B, they hang out with person C, I meet person C in town and talk but we do not click at all in fact they are like oil and I am water... They touch my reverse scale and say/do something extremely offensive so I report them. This ends up being the straw that breaks the camels back resulting in them getting banned. GM kindly explains the reason to person C and though I am one of many cases they whine about it to Person B and A... Now I have no friends, A lone lalafell is not a happy lalafell. Additionally, I might not report someone if I knew they will know it was me who reported them or maybe I'll think twice about it. If say there is only one time and it was a little harsh of the other person I might forgo reporting them. If they have then do the same in many other cases to other people and none report because they don't want to be known for reporting people, then it is possible many people have a bad experience and new commers to flee from a perceived toxic environment.

    As for Innocent till proven guilty, this is a weird concept that is not widely accepted. Even in the US Legal system this may be the case in the court house but until you get to trial most people will treat you as guilty. Even your own lawyer may work under the assumption of guilt. The cops that pick you up make assumptions based off their person experiences and often they respond to a call based off the assumption the callers information was correct. Call first and you get to control the situation. Who started the fight? Well obviously the mother was attacked. She call it in, why would she call in saying she was attacked if that wasn't the case. Though the incident happened after she pushed open the child's door, and placed her hands on their neck... But she has scratch marks on her arms and she did call 911. Certainly she is not lying as we can see obvious evidence of an attack. She even clearly stated the the 3rd child is a liar so why would we believe them or the 2nd child. The 2nd child attacked her after she enter the room obviously lying to not get in trouble. The cops would of course be in the right to tell you that it is wrong to hit a women for any reason, completely ignoring the fact that all you did was pry her arms off your throat and push her out of you room and sit on the door. But innocent till proven guilty right? They wouldn't hold you in a juvenile detention center for 3 month including your birthday.

    The US legal system doesn't even apply to in game rules. You agree to Terms of Service. You agree that they will provide you with a service and you will obey certain rules. By violating these rules they can terminate your service. The EUA clearly states the following "SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FFXIV SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU." in Section 1. This game has no assumption of innocence or guilt. It is not that far in, you should more carefully read the terms and agreements you make when signing up for a game most have a similar clause. It is nice to have light punishments and reasons behind the bans, it would not be a fun environment if we had tyrannical dictators running about. A clear social guidelines might be help full for some users but with out offensive examples that can be a little hard... I do think a nice note to what type of prohibited activity and a link the related terms or prohibited activity post might be helpful in some cases. Here's a link to their summary of prohibited activity http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...6&id=5382&la=1 It would be great to have mute and friend only chat option so you can only talk to certain people as a punishment for lighter infractions.
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    Last edited by Oopsy; 03-30-2019 at 04:44 PM.