Ultima (can blms have it please)

[Dyvid]

No. Absolutely not.
Ultima is the FINAL spell.
It is the most devastating spell of 30+ Years of Final Fantasy.
ARR confirmed it to be most ancient and powerful spell.

This thread is basically
"Oh hey can you throw this into a L80 spell?"
Next expansion happens.
"Oh can you invent Ultima 2? I know it's never happened in FF, but..."
Next expansion happens.
"Oh hey do we get Ultima 3 now that we're on this slippery slope?"

No. No no no.

Comet makes sense.
Meteo makes sense.
Merton makes sense.
Meltdown makes sense.
Foul makes sense.

Ultima does not make sense and we should not offer some cheap dumbed-down spell, no matter what Shard we're on, after how badly the game emphasized its power in ARR from Ascians who travel across all the Shards.

Final Fantasy released Ultima in FF2 in 1988. The spell is over 30 years old.

Do not give in to people who just want a name to feel better than their actual DPS.

Well hang on a second. SMN has Bahamut which is the pinnacle of summoned monsters. And it's also considered Black Magic. There isn't any reason outside of personal opinion that it's can't be added to BLM or RDM in the future.

[Orbus]

No, summoner had DEMI-bahamut.
Demi being latin for "not really".

[Kabooa]

No, summoner had DEMI-bahamut.
Demi being latin for "not really".

So... Demi-Ultima?

[Orbus]

So "not really" ultima.

[Ssmiley_Bjakkzz]

The ultima spell, ahem it would cause extreme lags and risk game crash burn pc and explode my headphones and earbleed but still it would be awesome

[Neela]

The ultima spell, ahem it would cause extreme lags and risk game crash burn pc and explode my headphones and earbleed but still it would be awesome

Like the Fallout 76 disaster if u blow multiple A-Bombs?... ^^‘

[CelestaRosa]

Demi-Ultima already in the game guys. nothing compared to that gramor peace when ultima weapon used it. i say demi ultima used can actually saw i feel black mage casting it.

Demi-Ultima isn't a nuke. more like a shot from magatnic pulse rifle. that navy use does really cast expansion it will leave huge hole in something woah

[Lauront]

The lore behind the spell is that it requires a very high concentration of aether. So it would be naturally suited to jobs which weave external aether into their abilities, like WHM or BLM. With BLM being the big nuker of the two, it's the natural option, but given the lore limitations on the spell, it'd have to be a weaker version. So I think Demi-Ultima works best. As long as SE could provide some interesting mechanics to it, so as to avoid it just being an overwrite of Foul, it'd be a cool addition.

Although there's some clamour for a VerUltima, I think should come after some form of Ultima is added to BLM, and then RDM can get its own version, which like VerFlare/VerHoly, will be based on workarounds to account for the fact that RDM limits itself to its internal aether reserves (plus of course the augmentation the focus provides.) Frankly, though, I think there's other options RDM could go for, for 5.0. The same goes for Demi-Ultima, it's not an urgently needed spell, just one I'd like to see some day.

Demi-Ultima seems appropriate.

As for "rocket science" for BLM is concerned, please don't dumb the job down any further than it already has been, thank you. I understand that many people who play the class just want to see a big number and AFK in their cool robes in town, but many of us enjoy playing it at endgame and don't want it to be boring.

Hear hear.