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  1. #31
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    Banriikku's Avatar
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Weird for me is that ppl (on their main Char) are sitting on ilvl 360 and below. Why ? Alphascape is 380 gear and you can craft 380 gear with the option to upgrade to 390. And NO i dont mean the new Players...
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  2. #32
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Weird for me is that ppl (on their main Char) are sitting on ilvl 360 and below. Why ? Alphascape is 380 gear and you can craft 380 gear with the option to upgrade to 390. And NO i dont mean the new Players...
    Not everyone runs Alphascape - especially not more than once, and the i380 gear is not trivial to craft.
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  3. #33
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Weird for me is that ppl (on their main Char) are sitting on ilvl 360 and below. Why ? Alphascape is 380 gear and you can craft 380 gear with the option to upgrade to 390. And NO i dont mean the new Players...
    Not really surprising :
    1. Clearing it only for story
    2. Boring way to farm stuff
    3. Not really motivating content to run several times with PU

    Crafted gear is not that easy to craft and don't worth the price it is sold in HV considering the final use.

    Yeah Tomes stuffs are not fantastic to farm either but considering the PU factor...
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Not everyone runs Alphascape - especially not more than once, and the i380 gear is not trivial to craft.
    Hmm so what gear do you/ they use to run current content ? 380 is for the current stuff mandatory (my opinion). So what is the difficulty ? Im curious : why not farm alpha ?
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    Karma Dunkelsonn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Hmm so what gear do you/ they use to run current content ? 380 is for the current stuff mandatory (my opinion). [...]
    My tome job uses the 390 stuff (just got my last missing piece this week thanks to the raised cap. Now to upgrade everything to 400 and get those melds in...), everyone else uses the 375 stuff from GD with completely new 70s using the 360 gear as a stopgap measure for slots where I haven't had a 375 piece saved up from Greed rolls.
    For the content I do (that is, nothing Savage) it's good enough.
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  6. #36
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    White Mage Lv 80
    SMN i393 or so, with i390 weapon. Didn't break a sweat.

    Given that Ghimlyt Dark requires i360 and drops i375, i361 does seem a tad low. Also i390 gear is available through crafting so there's no need to do hard content to gear up.
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  7. #37
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    Fugu Barr
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by craybest View Post
    I tried it with 361 and I could only kill 2 of the 3 things we have to do before auto failing the duty, so i guess i need more.
    for those who beat it, what is your IL?
    i don't think we should be doing raids or extra hard content only to beat the MSQ.
    Was this the final one where you fight Zenos? I just did it the other day at 364, but I couldn't kill the swords fast enough. Not wanting to repeat the Hien fight over and over again to retry Zenos, I just intentionally failed it (By not grouping with Lyse) until I got the Echo buff, then finished it easily. (Just AFK the first fight until it fails about 5 times
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  8. #38
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Hmm so what gear do you/ they use to run current content ? 380 is for the current stuff mandatory (my opinion). So what is the difficulty ?
    How do you define "current content"? As far as I am concerned, all the level 70 duties count as current content, and i380 gear is most certainly not needed for most of them.

    I don't do any of the level 70 Savage/Extreme duties, and I don't plan on doing those until they are no longer current content.

    As for what gear I use it is a mixture of tomestone gear, (bought) crafted gear, dungeon drops, a piece or two from Alphascape.

    Im curious : why not farm alpha ?
    Because farming stuff isn't fun, of course.
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  9. #39
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Hmmm i think the first SHB dungeons will be @375 ilvl. And for example running the Burn with low ilvl gear ... sorry but this sounds like hell especially for the healer and tank. I dont think gearing up to 380 is hard. But its just my opinion : whatever float your boat as long you are not a burden for the group.
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  10. #40
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    Alexwern Nisutoromu
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    How do you define "current content"? As far as I am concerned, all the level 70 duties count as current content, and i380 gear is most certainly not needed for most of them.
    lv70 content =/= current content. Content that came with/after latest raid tier and ilv increase is considered current content. Or content that's at least somewhat new or relevant to players like EX primals and Ultimates. Delta/Sigma for example are not current content.

    As for topic: I did this on best in slot ilv396 DRK with half the bar remaining. I have alt with pretty crap gear so maybe I should do the instance on it and see how it compares.
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