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    AleXwern's Avatar
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    Alexwern Nisutoromu
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    How do you define "current content"? As far as I am concerned, all the level 70 duties count as current content, and i380 gear is most certainly not needed for most of them.
    lv70 content =/= current content. Content that came with/after latest raid tier and ilv increase is considered current content. Or content that's at least somewhat new or relevant to players like EX primals and Ultimates. Delta/Sigma for example are not current content.

    As for topic: I did this on best in slot ilv396 DRK with half the bar remaining. I have alt with pretty crap gear so maybe I should do the instance on it and see how it compares.
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Weird for me is that ppl (on their main Char) are sitting on ilvl 360 and below. Why ? Alphascape is 380 gear and you can craft 380 gear with the option to upgrade to 390. And NO i dont mean the new Players...
    Not really surprising :
    1. Clearing it only for story
    2. Boring way to farm stuff
    3. Not really motivating content to run several times with PU

    Crafted gear is not that easy to craft and don't worth the price it is sold in HV considering the final use.

    Yeah Tomes stuffs are not fantastic to farm either but considering the PU factor...
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Weird for me is that ppl (on their main Char) are sitting on ilvl 360 and below. Why ? Alphascape is 380 gear and you can craft 380 gear with the option to upgrade to 390. And NO i dont mean the new Players...
    I cant talk for others, but I just came back to the game about two weeks ago, after being away over a year. My highest gear was i320. I was basically BIS (for armor) until the savage Omega came out. The toxicity of the high end raiding community was part of why I quit the game.

    Now I'm back and will just stick to regular casual content (dungeon, alliance raids, MAYBE normal mode raids) but I'm definitvely not killing myself doing weekly targets of any kind to grind best gear possible. If any content demands me need such an investment on gear, that's the end of my subscription again and for good.

    I do already have a couple Genesis pieces, though, but I rather work on leveling other jobs than grinding gear that will become obsolete in a couple months.

    TLDR: casual players, returning players, and casual returning players.
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    Fraemoht Grehaerzsyn
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogulbuk View Post
    I cant talk for others, but I just came back to the game about two weeks ago, after being away over a year. My highest gear was i320. I was basically BIS (for armor) until the savage Omega came out. The toxicity of the high end raiding community was part of why I quit the game.

    Now I'm back and will just stick to regular casual content (dungeon, alliance raids, MAYBE normal mode raids) but I'm definitvely not killing myself doing weekly targets of any kind to grind best gear possible. If any content demands me need such an investment on gear, that's the end of my subscription again and for good.

    I do already have a couple Genesis pieces, though, but I rather work on leveling other jobs than grinding gear that will become obsolete in a couple months.

    TLDR: casual players, returning players, and casual returning players.
    Well you can do casual contents casually without any intention of grinding and still be able to obtain gears.

    I also took a hiatus for a year before and missed about 50 ilvls when I came back. It didn't take long to catch up even without grinding.
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    SMN i393 or so, with i390 weapon. Didn't break a sweat.

    Given that Ghimlyt Dark requires i360 and drops i375, i361 does seem a tad low. Also i390 gear is available through crafting so there's no need to do hard content to gear up.
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by craybest View Post
    I tried it with 361 and I could only kill 2 of the 3 things we have to do before auto failing the duty, so i guess i need more.
    for those who beat it, what is your IL?
    i don't think we should be doing raids or extra hard content only to beat the MSQ.
    Was this the final one where you fight Zenos? I just did it the other day at 364, but I couldn't kill the swords fast enough. Not wanting to repeat the Hien fight over and over again to retry Zenos, I just intentionally failed it (By not grouping with Lyse) until I got the Echo buff, then finished it easily. (Just AFK the first fight until it fails about 5 times
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Shiva
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Hmmm i think the first SHB dungeons will be @375 ilvl. And for example running the Burn with low ilvl gear ... sorry but this sounds like hell especially for the healer and tank. I dont think gearing up to 380 is hard. But its just my opinion : whatever float your boat as long you are not a burden for the group.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Zodiark
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Banriikku View Post
    Hmmm i think the first SHB dungeons will be @375 ilvl. And for example running the Burn with low ilvl gear ... sorry but this sounds like hell especially for the healer and tank. I dont think gearing up to 380 is hard. But its just my opinion : whatever float your boat as long you are not a burden for the group.
    Gearing up to i380 isn't hard as such. Just tedious and/or expensive.

    Judging from the early parts of Stormblood and Heavensward, I expect the first ShB dungeon to drop i390 or i400 gear - depending on what level the dungeon is.
    I also expect the early quests in ShB to give us i385 gear before we end up in any dungeon, so better gear than that will certainly not be needed going into ShB.
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    Shalya Arlemoire
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Gearing up to i380 isn't hard as such. Just tedious and/or expensive.

    Judging from the early parts of Stormblood and Heavensward, I expect the first ShB dungeon to drop i390 or i400 gear - depending on what level the dungeon is.
    I also expect the early quests in ShB to give us i385 gear before we end up in any dungeon, so better gear than that will certainly not be needed going into ShB.
    If they won't add an ilev requirement, then the first dungeon will be ilevel 1 But fun aside, it will drop 390 for sure, because Sirensong dropped 260 items (like 260 shire gear) if they do the same formula in Stormblood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    The Samurai stops performing any actions and takes two telegraphed aoes to the face and dies but still manages to get his final words out..

    "u dont pay my sub noob"

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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    380 is decent. Might get you to the 1st dungeon before you start replacing.

    390 is good. Might get you to the 2nd.

    400 will get you to about lvl 76 until you need to start replacing.

    You know, unless you're one of those people who think it's ok to keep the same gear the whole leveling process. Don't be one of those people.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...nk-at-ilvl-272
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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