How much item level we need for the new content?

[craybest]

I tried it with 361 and I could only kill 2 of the 3 things we have to do before auto failing the duty, so i guess i need more.
for those who beat it, what is your IL?
i dont think we should be doing raids or extra hard content only to beat the MSQ.

[KageTokage]

You shouldn't need too high of an item level if you conserve your cooldowns for when the swords spawn.

I was able to burn the swords down without them with an ilvl of 399 on NIN so I think lower ilvls can pull it off if they save their burst damage.

This still seems very much tuned for DPS rather then tanks or healers, though...

[HyoMinPark]

This still seems very much tuned for DPS rather then tanks or healers, though...

Not really. I did it on WHM and took out all three swords after DoTs > 2~3 Stone IVs and Assize (which only hit two of them)—I didn’t have to use Cleric Stance or PoM. I’m i399 on my healers, but it definitely wasn’t difficult to burn them down quickly.




For people that are concerned about gear grinds—you don’t have to do much grinding, really. Just run Expert Roulette once a day every day, and that will give you 90 * 7 = 630 Genesis (they’ve raised the cap for it to 900).

You can also do Orbonne Monestary to try and get a piece of gear from it. Running all three 24-mans give you tokens to trade in for upgrade pieces for left and right side, so you can get easy i400 gear. The weapon upgrade will probably be added soon, too (I don’t think they added it this last patch... can’t remember).

You should still have semi-up-to-date gear even in “casual” content. Simply because, if you’re too low, you may not meet the item level and you may be a hinderance to your group if you’re on a tank or healer role. No need for unnecessary struggle. You don’t need full i400 Savage BiS, but I think everyone should at least aim for i390 before the expansion ends. That way you can go into Shadowbringers and not have to worry about gear upgrades for a couple levels (and, if you’re leveling DNC/GUN, you can have gear set aside for them when they hit level 70, which is always nice).

[MistakeNot]

You can also do Orbonne Monestary to try and get a piece of gear from it. Running all three 24-mans give you tokens to trade in for upgrade pieces for left and right side, so you can get easy i400 gear. The weapon upgrade will probably be added soon, too (I don’t think they added it this last patch... can’t remember).

If you have good enough gear to even enter Orbonne Monastery (i365 required) then you already have good enough gear to finish the MSQ, as well as good enough gear to enter all other non-Extreme/non-Savage content in the game.
In other words, if you can run Orbonne Monastery then you no longer need to grind for gear unless you really want to do the hardcore content.

[Banriikku]

If you have good enough gear to even enter Orbonne Monastery (i365 required) then you already have good enough gear to finish the MSQ, as well as good enough gear to enter all other non-Extreme/non-Savage content in the game.
In other words, if you can run Orbonne Monastery then you no longer need to grind for gear unless you really want to do the hardcore content.

Extrem is not hardcore. Savage is but ex is just normal with more Bosslifepool and damage and less telegraphing. For exemaple Snekboi is the easiest Ex-Encounter in Stormblood and can be done with 380 gear.

@Ogulbuk
Killing yourself ? Wow, a little bit dramatic? You can with close to no effort obtain tomestones (red, yellow or genesis). The current MSQ is way easier then Ala Mhigo MSQ. And when you think that "grinding gear that will become obsolete in a couple months" then you played through FF14 already. no offense just my thoughts.

[tdb]

If you have good enough gear to even enter Orbonne Monastery (i365 required) then you already have good enough gear to finish the MSQ, as well as good enough gear to enter all other non-Extreme/non-Savage content in the game.
In other words, if you can run Orbonne Monastery then you no longer need to grind for gear unless you really want to do the hardcore content.

Sure, but improving your gear now will smooth out the transition to ShB content. It hardly makes sense to stop improving your gear just because it's not necessary - unless maybe you're going to take a hiatus until ShB release. Just doing expert roulette a few times per week will earn you enough genesis to buy several pieces of i390 gear. I'd hardly call that grinding.

[craybest]

399 il wow that's a lot, i guess i should first get rid of all my 330 il items, which are 4 or so. i'm a ninja aswell, but we don't have that many cooldowns, and i did use them on the swords too. but i wasn't even close, i barely got to the third one and the timer went full. besids i have to evade the HUGE aoes that appear around the swords so that takes quite some time of from hitting them too.

[LalaLeChat]

You don't need to have that high an item level. I did it on drk at ilvl 382 with a 365 weapon. Just save your cooldowns for the swords. if you're still struggling you can get a few more genesis pieces they have raised the weekly cap to 900.

[NanaWiloh]

You don't need to have that high an item level. I did it on drk at ilvl 382 with a 365 weapon. Just save your cooldowns for the swords. if you're still struggling you can get a few more genesis pieces they have raised the weekly cap to 900.

This is the best advice outside of better gear. No doubt save your Cd's for the swords

[Astrus]

Failed it twice with a DRK at 381 because I just didn't have enough damage to kill the last sword, then got through without issue with a 360 RDM though that was with the buff you get starting on the third try. Felt like I could have done it without the buff though.