Scoring System for instances

[Radacci]

Fates use this scoring system based on contribution, I'd like to see something like that in instanced content as well.
Tanks for example could get scored on how well they manage aggro.
Healers on heals or mitigating damage, keeping people alive.
(It's a bit awkward between tank-healers, cause if tank's heavily mitigate damage, then healer doesn't get much to heal)
DPS on dps, managing aggro using diversion. refresh, goad etc.
Everyone on doing mechanics right, and avoiding avoidable damage, etc.
Using wide selection of skills, and not just spam cure I even when party takes high aoe damage.

This could be tied in with mentorship, cause apparently 99% of mentors, have no idea what they are talking about - what's the point of mentor system, if mentors are as clueless as the people they are supposed to mentor?
I'm thinking something like:
new players have that green plant icon, so if it's your first time in an instance, you automatically have that icon (or if you haven't cleared it yet)
If you cleard it with low score, you'll have a bronze medal icon.
Silver if you got good score, and gold if you performed really well.
And Mentor Medal if you cleared it with gold on minimum item level.
(on a side-note, maybe allow people to run matched roulette/dungeons on minimum ilv, with significant clear bonus)
Even if you don't clear, and there's vote abandon, you could still get a score, on the progress you made.
So in party finder, you could set score requirement.
And for EX primals for example, you might not have clear yet, but know the fight well, with high score, and you could meet requirement for farm party anyway. or fail requirement for farm party, even if you cleared it.
Also it's kind of ridiculous with people setting ilv400 req, on ilv300 content, so maybe have increase chance of obtaining primal mounts, on minimum ilv?
So you could set high score requirement, instead of high ilv, cause ilv doesn't mean anything if you're dead.

I also think every dungeon should have a score requirement, along with ilv.
the requirement should be low for low lv dungeons, but progress higher towards end-game content.
Let's say bronze give 1000pt, silver 2000, gold 5000.
Then ARR dungeons should require average of 1250, across all previous dungeons.
HW=1500
SB=2000
ShB=3000
People really need to be held accountable in group content, and not just skid trough the whole game, on a banana peel, and have no idea how to play, on lv 70+
For example, i was watching this guy stream on twitch, when Tera was in beta on PS4. I gave him some tips, but he flat out ignored it, saying it's just beta. I pointed out he had some new skills, but he refused to use them (using above excuse)
He really liked the game, and wanted to keep playing it at release, but don't want to improve?
I watch him stream after release, and he was playing Brawler (tank) but didn't really use any tanking skills, and never had aggro, and didn't want to listen to advice....soooo why should people like that be allowed to mess up for multiple other people? In later content, you won't even be able to clear it, if tank can't aggro, or healers can't heal, it's just waste of time - they really need to be held accountable, and expected to improve over time.

I know everyone has their own style, and enjoy the game differently - you can enjoy the game as you wish, as long as it doesn't impact other people, in a negative way.
I encountered many people in various content, who really couldn't care less about anyone else, and it's unacceptable in >>group<< content; if they are that selfish, they can stay locked out of content.

[Halivel]

It sounds very interesting and I wonder how it can possibly work in the game, but I'm afraid it will end up as tool of harassing. Score itself is quite useless, it only tells that "something is probably wrong" but do not really teach people how to play even if they want to know.
Much better it could be if system will say what exactly was done in wrong way (let's say, you refreshed dots too early so lost potential damage), but quite hard to implement into game because in long-term perspective it will kill unique playstyles in forcing people to do all things in absolutely same way if they want to reach at least medium score, not even high.

so maybe have increase chance of obtaining primal mounts, on minimum ilv?

It works like this already. There is a special option for this in DF. :eyes:

[Gula]

No thank you.

It would be very, very stressful for new players and people learning a job to be pushed by vets to get gold on top of the duress that comes with the experience. There will be groups that will kick at the end if they know they're not getting the best score over a slip up. People will, ya know they will. And no, some people do not want to improve. They are happy where they are and the battle designers know this.

Maybe you should try Dungeon Fighter Online, should be still running. Arcade style mmo and everyone goes in to even low level content pushing you to get top score.

[Kaurhz]

No. This has been proposed a thousand times, still, no.

When you use the duty finder and get grouped with random people, frankly, at that point you lose all right to complain.

[Caitlinzulu]

How about just no.
I can feel the elitist mentality appearing.
Que times wou'd increase too because of fragmenting the player pool.

[fumofu]

I don't think it is necessary, game is fine as it is. I have no problem clearing most of dungeons, even if performance of party is weak, just takes a bit longer. And no, people shouldn't be accountable for their performance in regular content. It's just a game which gives us plenty of freedom of how to play. Suggestions like yours aims to limit our freedom. I'm against that.

[Mikki]

Yeah, gonna have to say no. As others have mentioned, I think it will just end up as a means of harassing others and although interesting, it doesn't really add much or give helpful information to improve by itself.

[Gula]

Yeah, gonna have to say no. As others have mentioned, I think it will just end up as a means of harassing others and although interesting, it doesn't really add much or give helpful information to improve by itself.

You can lead a horse to water but can't force it to drink. The people who plan out the combat are well aware and I think solo duties give all the information one needs to understand (eventually) why it is they need to not stand in the orange and why their strategy of auto attacks is not working. Especially the newest one. (as of this post)

[Tsukino]

It would be poorly balanced and heavily gamed just like the FATE system is. People will find whatever thing gets max points and do that instead of properly helping out, just like they throw DoTs and spam AoE enmity abilities to get gold on FATEs.

[Tlachtga]

You have the wrong MMO. Anything that could show somehow how bad they actually are is the worst idea ever, and is instantly shot down by the community because of possible toxicity that might happen. Maybe.

It's best to just keep it as it is; the MSQ/dungeons/most content being pathetically easy, making you feel like you're a god at the game, and perpetually keeping your contribution to fights hidden and out of sight.

Please think of the newbies!